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General Ramblings and Questions after re-listening to Battle Ground

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Regenbogen:

--- Quote from: morriswalters on June 16, 2022, 09:43:36 PM ---What's the point?  How does it serve the plot? Butcher laid ground in Cold Days to set out how it would work.  He had Vadderung spell it out.

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I think Kumori is Future!Maggie, not Molly, because of her attitude towards necromancy and her wish to end death. Maggie has lost so many important people in her life already as a child. This would make sense, that she would want death to end, like she said. In Dead Beat. OK, now one could say Molly could have lost people too in the future. Or perhaps Michael would have died at Bianca's Party, if Cowl hadn't changed the outcome. But to me she doesn't feel like Molly. There have been lots of discussions, and I think she could be both Molly or Maggie under the right circumstances, but to me she doesn't feel like Molly.


And it serves the plot: their interference caused a change in the timeline, which is now the timeline we are reading about. Maybe Harry's Hand hasn't been damaged at that time, if Future!Harry/Cowl wasn't injured, because.... no idea, perhaps because this was one of the consequences when they changed their past. And Cowl did it repeatedly. He was there with Kumori in Grave Peril and Dead beat. And he was there alone in White Night (if it even was him, but I think Harry wasn't wrong), and I think each time he changed what would have happened. Maybe he changed a bit and the outcome was worse than the original or there were aspects he wasn't aware of before. So he had to change something else at another time. Or maybe it was all planned out.

g33k:

--- Quote from: morriswalters on June 16, 2022, 09:43:36 PM ---What's the point?  How does it serve the plot? Butcher laid ground in Cold Days to set out how it would work.  He had Vadderung spell it out.
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The "point" (narratively) would be to revisit stuff from the POV of more-aware Harry.  We know Harry has missed a huge amount of subtle things going on around him; Jim repeatedly has said so.  So it adds context, clarifies mysteries, maybe even completely changes our understanding of some scenes.

If Jim is still planning on a Lawbreaker novel for each law, that's my #1 bet for the time-travel one, a "casefiles retrospective" where he hits a whole bunch of prior Cases (including fixing Little Chicago).

morriswalters:

--- Quote from: g33k on June 17, 2022, 05:31:59 AM ---The "point" (narratively) would be to revisit stuff from the POV of more-aware Harry.  We know Harry has missed a huge amount of subtle things going on around him; Jim repeatedly has said so.  So it adds context, clarifies mysteries, maybe even completely changes our understanding of some scenes.

If Jim is still planning on a Lawbreaker novel for each law, that's my #1 bet for the time-travel one, a "casefiles retrospective" where he hits a whole bunch of prior Cases (including fixing Little Chicago).


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He's already done a number of them. But if the time travel book is just to get a new perspective on the books I'll pass even if I don't die of old age first. I've read them already.

Mira:

--- Quote from: morriswalters on June 17, 2022, 10:43:51 AM ---He's already done a number of them. But if the time travel book is just to get a new perspective on the books I'll pass even if I don't die of old age first. I've read them already.

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Yeah, a number of us will die of old age, and agreed.  Now maybe Jim can pull it off, but you are right it is basically the same formula for every time travel story.  But I guess that can be said for a lot of stories.

morriswalters:
That I might not survive to read the books isn't the point. What do the books have to say that would make it worth living to read them might be a better way to think about it?

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