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Lara and Harry sitting in a tree.......?
morriswalters:
--- Quote from: ApollonianAcolyte on May 05, 2022, 05:36:18 PM ---How so?
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If they have true love they can't have sex for procreation. It's an explicit contradiction. For a male it would be like making love to a toaster. What Butcher writes but doesn't state explicitly is for the human to have the protection the human must be monogamous to the person loved. But if they are monogamous the human is like a hot element in a toaster, but if that isn't true, then they don't have true love. In practical terms you have a couple where the women is monogamous and the man is running around. A White could eat the husband but not the wife. I don't write this stuff I just try to understand what Butcher is selling.
ApollonianAcolyte:
--- Quote from: morriswalters on May 05, 2022, 07:07:17 PM ---If they have true love they can't have sex for procreation. It's an explicit contradiction. For a male it would be like making love to a toaster. What Butcher writes but doesn't state explicitly is for the human to have the protection the human must be monogamous to the person loved. But if they are monogamous the human is like a hot element in a toaster, but if that isn't true, then they don't have true love. In practical terms you have a couple where the women is monogamous and the man is running around. A White could eat the husband but not the wife. I don't write this stuff I just try to understand what Butcher is selling.
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Ah, thanks for the explanation. I see what you mean now. Though Thomas and Justine's relationship and the resultant pregnancy seems to serve as a counterexample, doesn't it? More speculatively, there is also the marriage loophole I advocated.
ApollonianAcolyte:
--- Quote from: Mira on May 05, 2022, 06:59:51 PM ---It is true.. Page 373 White Night, Harry and Lara kiss..
Then on the next page 373 White Night;
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I think there's been some misunderstanding on your part or a miscommunication on mine.
First off, I have to ask: I have read White Night and am aware of all that you have quoted; have you read Something Borrowed? As I stated, my argument hinges on the events of that story.
Secondly, I want to reiterate that I am not denying that Lara cannot touch Harry while he is under the true love protection. I am of course aware that Lara is allergic to true love, and that Harry currently has that protection from Murphy.
So I am not arguing for Lara to be immune to the true love protection, I am providing an alternative (and speculative) way that the true love protection can be overcome apart from him hooking up with someone else, ie., through a wedding. Again the point is that the true love protection will end, not that Lara will be somehow immune to true love.
So pointing out that Lara was burnt by Harry's true love protection doesn't really address my point since I never denied that she was weak to true love.
I hope that was clear this time.
morriswalters:
--- Quote from: ApollonianAcolyte on May 05, 2022, 07:44:48 PM ---Ah, thanks for the explanation. I see what you mean now. Though Thomas and Justine's relationship and the resultant pregnancy seems to serve as a counterexample, doesn't it? More speculatively, there is also the marriage loophole I advocated.
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It proves how good a writer Butcher can be. He sells it and I bought into it.
Mr. Mouse:
--- Quote from: morriswalters on May 05, 2022, 05:15:19 PM ---This thread has twisted reality in a way I didn't expect. Hats off to the posters. :o
Consider a couple of things. First, no vampire child could have ever been a product of true love. Think about it.
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I don't believe that's the case. If the act of sex that places the imprint of true love on the partners is also the one which results in the pregnancy then the child would be the product of true love. For example, if Justine had become pregnant the night Thomas fed on her at the end of Blood Rites.
--- Quote --- Second question I get that the Big Foot's boy can feed his vampire lover because of his reserves but how does she keep from getting burned if they have true love between them?
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They didn't seem to have gotten to that point in their relationship when we see them in Bigfoot on Campus. Can you imagine the fight they might have if one of them gets angry that this hasn't become an issue for them? "You don't truly love me, otherwise there'd be 3rd degree burns!"
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