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Lara and Harry sitting in a tree.......?
morriswalters:
This thread has twisted reality in a way I didn't expect. Hats off to the posters. :o
Consider a couple of things. First, no vampire child could have ever been a product of true love. Think about it. Second question I get that the Big Foot's boy can feed his vampire lover because of his reserves but how does she keep from getting burned if they have true love between them?
Mira:
--- Quote from: ApollonianAcolyte on May 05, 2022, 05:02:44 PM ---Another solution is hinted at in the short story, Something Borrowed. In that story, Bob says that Will marrying Jenny Greenteeth (disguised as Georgia) annuls Will's true love protection (and allow Jenny to enslave him). In his words:
“I mean, if he’s married to another, it can’t really be pure love. Jenny’s claim on him would prevent the kiss from lifting the spell.”
One could argue, based on this, that Harry marrying Lara would similarly annul his protection from Murphy. And conveniently, there's a wedding coming up. Now Jenny is a Sidhe not a Vamp, so it might not be valid to analogise these scenarios. But it is definitely suggestive.
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But only if he has had sex with someone else since she died. His protection from Susan lasted until he hooked up with Luccio. Now granted Susan wasn't dead at the time of White Night, but Harry hadn't been with anyone else for a couple of years, and it burned the crap out of Lara's lips. So would Murphy being dead make a difference? If not Lara cannot touch him till he hooks up with someone else.
ApollonianAcolyte:
--- Quote from: morriswalters on May 05, 2022, 05:15:19 PM ---First, no vampire child could have ever been a product of true love. Think about it.
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How so?
--- Quote from: morriswalters on May 05, 2022, 05:15:19 PM ---Second question I get that the Big Foot's boy can feed his vampire lover because of his reserves but how does she keep from getting burned if they have true love between them?
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This is an interesting question with no definitive answer. Connie and Irwin are highly atypical in a few ways:
* Irwin is a half-human scion, hence his huge reserves. It is possible his (partial) non-human nature annuls or mitigates Connie's true love allergy
* Connie never killed during her first feeding. Usually to complete their transition, a Whamp's first feeding must be fatal. But Irwin never died. So it is possible that Connie's Hunger isn't 'fully developed' and is thus less vulnerable to true love.
* Connie and Irwin appeared to be in love before their first sexual encounter. Usually that would kill the Hunger. But again, the act was never completed. It's possible this partial experience with true love 'inoculated' Connie's demon, so to speak, making it more immune to true love.
Or maybe they just don't actually love each other.
ApollonianAcolyte:
--- Quote from: Mira on May 05, 2022, 05:35:28 PM ---But only if he has had sex with someone else since she died. So would Murphy being dead make a difference? If not Lara cannot touch him till he hooks up with someone else.
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I don't think that's true. Again, Bob's words were that marrying Jenny Greenteeth would annul Will's love protection even though Will was presumably completely faithful to Georgia and had no other sexual encounters. By the same logic, Harry being 'faithful' to Murphy should not prevent the wedding from annulling his true love protection. At least if the analogy is valid.
--- Quote from: Mira on May 05, 2022, 05:35:28 PM ---So would Murphy being dead make a difference? If not Lara cannot touch him till he hooks up with someone else.
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Well, my logic is that Lara would not be able to touch him until after the wedding vows precisely because of the reasoning you present. But after the wedding vows, Harry's true love protection would be negated.
Mira:
--- Quote ---I don't think that's true
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It is true.. Page 373 White Night, Harry and Lara kiss..
--- Quote ---She pressed closer, parted my lips with her tongue, and I thought I was going to explode.when she suddenly let out a hiss and recoiled from me, a hand flying to her mouth--but not before I saw the blisters rising from the burned flesh around her lips.
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Then on the next page 373 White Night;
--- Quote ---Lara turned away from me, huddling in upon herself."Bloody hell," she said after a moment. "I can't believeyou're stillprotected. But it's old. . . My intelligence said Ms. Rodriguez hadn't left South America."
"She hasn't," I croaked.
"You mean. . ." She turned and blinked at me, astonishment on her face, "Dresden. . .do you mean to say that the last time you had relations with a woman was nearly four yearsago?"
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