The Dresden Files > DF Spoilers
Little Things [spoilers]
g33k:
--- Quote from: KurtinStGeorge on June 04, 2022, 11:17:12 PM --- ... There is also the question if Harry could do anything to get around interference from Thorned Namshiel. Harry would know from his experience with Hannah Ascher that the Fallen can make their host hear anything they want them too. Harry would have to think of something subtle to tell Marcone to avoid that, and Harry isn't someone we normally associate with subtlety.
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Yeah, to quote Harry himself: "Fuck subtle!"
Luckily, he doesn't need subtlety. He's clever, and he's already learned this lesson: the communication-spell he used with Elaine; most critically, while Elaine was being attacked by the despair-whamp (whose name escapes me).
He'll need a drop of Marcone's blood (or similar), and THAT will be the hard part. But I bet the spirit-to-spirit channel is one that not even the Fallen can blot out. That'll be a challenge! Especially with Namshiel on the lookout.
Mira:
--- Quote from: g33k on June 05, 2022, 05:23:06 AM ---Yeah, to quote Harry himself: "Fuck subtle!"
Luckily, he doesn't need subtlety. He's clever, and he's already learned this lesson: the communication-spell he used with Elaine; most critically, while Elaine was being attacked by the despair-whamp (whose name escapes me).
He'll need a drop of Marcone's blood (or similar), and THAT will be the hard part. But I bet the spirit-to-spirit channel is one that not even the Fallen can blot out. That'll be a challenge! Especially with Namshiel on the lookout.
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I think that Harry was able to communicate with Elaine in that manner is because of the close bond between them. He has no such mental/emotional bond with Marcone. Namshiel would be aware of any type of communication I'd think. Harry and Molly also achieved a mental bond, or a type of mental bond when they did their mental sparing.
KurtinStGeorge:
There was someone who once posted the idea that in the Mirror Mirror world regular Harry might discover a very different Alt-Marcone, perhaps even a redeemed Alt-Marcone. It seemed a bit farfetched to me at the time, but if regular Harry and redeemed Alt-Marcone became temporary allies, Alt-Marcone might reveal something he would have in common with his darker self in our universe. This assumes Alt-Marcone would want his other self to have a chance at redemption or prevent his darker self from attaining his goals.
The above scenario is quite a stretch, but in such a situation Harry might learn a secret that only our Marcone would know, or perhaps learn Marcone's complete real name. Using that might be a way for Harry to reach Marcone in a way he couldn't have with Hannah Ascher.
Dina:
I think Marcone real name would be significant in the future, as a code or something, but I do not know if it would be related with the Mirror Mirror book. I also think that Marcone sees not himself as that person anymore, so I believe his Name is not John Marcone and not whatever name he was born with, because he identifies himself with the new name, the one he chose.
I also with Kurtin in the fact that Harry would be the one realizing something is wrong with Marcone (also, not many people knows he is a denarian, so not many people will have a reason for suspect foul play) and, Harry being Harry, would help Marcone. But all that is theory, because I do not think it will happen. Marcone's will power is strong and I am sure he cut a deal with Namshiel. He won't be controlled.
Mira:
--- Quote from: Dina on June 05, 2022, 09:47:34 AM ---I think Marcone real name would be significant in the future, as a code or something, but I do not know if it would be related with the Mirror Mirror book. I also think that Marcone sees not himself as that person anymore, so I believe his Name is not John Marcone and not whatever name he was born with, because he identifies himself with the new name, the one he chose.
I also with Kurtin in the fact that Harry would be the one realizing something is wrong with Marcone (also, not many people knows he is a denarian, so not many people will have a reason for suspect foul play) and, Harry being Harry, would help Marcone. But all that is theory, because I do not think it will happen. Marcone's will power is strong and I am sure he cut a deal with Namshiel. He won't be controlled.
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Oh I think he will be controlled, like Nic maybe he will think it is his decisions or that he and Namshiel make them together, but he will realize that he is no longer calling the shots. I think he will come to regret his decision, somewhere find the strength to reject the coin. I think there is redemption out there for him, but it has to come from him. He may be the one who eventually wields the Sword of Love because of that once little girl who lies in a coma because of him. That regret is the one ounce of humanity left in him.
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