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How the hell did Blood on his Soul survive being mulched to a pulp

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forumghost:
I mean it's pretty well established that not much can kill a Denarian as long as they have their coin. There wasn't much of Tessa left after her failed ambush on Harry and Gard in Marcone's safehouse, but she just shrugged it off.

And BOHS had a much higher starting point then Tessa.

Yuillegan:
It did surprise me to learn that not only did the Genoskwa survive, but was able to actually leave Hades' Underworld.

Then again, Denarians have shown high levels of recovery in some circumstances, and Ursiel is about as tough a Fallen as they come. Coupled with the Genoskwa's own toughness (and likely ability to heal), plus whatever other Denarian tricks (like speeding up the mind) I can see how Blood-on-his-Soul survived.

The only way I can see Ursiel and BohS escaping is through a deal with Hades himself, either negotiated directly or perhaps Hell (as in Lucifer's domain) intervened. Maybe a trade, or even a jailbreak (although the latter seems less likely).

As Morris points out, there are essentially only a few ways out i.e. the main gate guarded by Cerberus (and you have to cross the River Styx, pay the ferryman etc). Or the backdoor entrance that Dresden had opened, which is harder (if not impossible) to open from the inside. I don't know if either seems likely.

Of course, the Black Council might have had something to do with it. They seem to have all kinds of tricks up their sleeves.

To answer the other OP questions:
1) I doubt Ursiel will care that they were left behind, but the Genoskwa is fairly emotional and might be upset. However, the source of their rage will of course be Dresden so he will receive the brunt of it.

2) Any mortal is corruptible i.e. it doesn't matter the species or race provided they have a soul and free will. Most don't have one let alone both. Therefore, there are many mortal races beyond just humans that could also take up coins. For instance, a White Court Vampire (this scenario has been put to Jim and he said the Fallen would easily outmatch the Hunger, no contest really). Changellings, some Scions (i.e. half-mortal half-supernatural creatures), Forrest People, Wolf People (like in the comic), Tera West's species (wolves that can turn into humans), etc. There are probably many I have left out or forgotten. It's the mortality thing that's key. I will say most animals probably are not susceptible (otherwise Ursiel might just pick a bear), probably because while mortal most (if not all) do not have souls or free will.

Mira:

--- Quote ---Then again, Denarians have shown high levels of recovery in some circumstances, and Ursiel is about as tough a Fallen as they come. Coupled with the Genoskwa's own toughness (and likely ability to heal), plus whatever other Denarian tricks (like speeding up the mind) I can see how Blood-on-his-Soul survived.


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 This true, but dead is dead, and if the host is killed the coin rolls away.  Unless it is retrieved by a Holy Knight for "safe keeping," Nic or another Denarian will pick it up to tempt the next suitable host.

So Ursiel, himself cannot be killed, he lives in his coin, but his host can be squished to death.. So wouldn't be shocked to see Ursiel again, but he will have a different body.

morriswalters:
If you never see it coming how fast you think will have nothing to do with it. 

The first quote is about opening a way in the realm. 

--- Quote ---Once or twice in my life, I’d been able to open a Way in front of me, fast enough to divert an incoming attack away from me, into the Nevernever or out into somewhere else in the mortal world. But from here, in the secured vault, there was no way I was going to be able to open a Way—not until I got back out beyond the first gate again.

Butcher, Jim. Skin Game: A Novel of the Dresden Files (p. 385). Penguin Publishing Group. Kindle Edition.
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The second about how much warning they had when the ice block crushed them.
--- Quote ---But neither the Genoskwa nor the Fallen angel sensed what was plummeting soundlessly toward them. A block of ice the size of a building came down like the hammer of God Almighty, and crushed the Genoskwa like a beer can.

Butcher, Jim. Skin Game: A Novel of the Dresden Files (p. 399). Penguin Publishing Group. Kindle Edition.
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Conspiracy Theorist:
Hades obviously let Blood go in exchange for his coin, he is a collector after all and had Lasciel’s sans host, he wanted Ursiel’s in mint condition (of course). It was the only thing he had to trade, other than body odour, and he gave that away for free. Blood is from a long lived race, and the coin made him effectively immortal Hades patience would thus be tried, and from his point of view Hades gets to keep the important being in his safekeeping.

Hades probably considered the coins payment for the diamonds (he was only looking after super weapons until a mortal custodian turned up)

Somewhere in Hades domain there is now a display case with 28 vacant slots, and that will worry the ultimate completist. Odin has better not owe Hades anything, otherwise Marcone might get a three way trade for Namshiel getting the Kringle Mantle in return for becoming a Faerie Godfather, and there only being 27 slots. Hades is a customer of Marcone’s after all.

Let’s face it the next time Harry comes into a little spare change he could do worse than sell the coins to hades for half a backpack of diamonds each.

Even without a coin Blood is a formidable opponent.

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