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Are Soul gazes inherently subjective?

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Arjan:

--- Quote from: SerScot on March 28, 2022, 06:45:37 PM ---Yes, but given the inherent subjectivity… how much good hard objective data really comes from a “soulgaze”?

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Nothing that can be measured, published and gets you a Phd in science😊

Mira:

--- Quote from: SerScot on March 28, 2022, 06:45:37 PM ---Yes, but given the inherent subjectivity… how much good hard objective data really comes from a “soulgaze”?

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Apparently a lot as far as the White Council is concerned.. Let's not forget that a Warden is required to do a soul gaze on a defendant, then give testimony about what he or she saw in a trail that could cost the defendant his or her head.  Also the Merlin, in Proven Guilty told Harry that he, himself soul gazed the Korean Kid and that he was not redeemable, thus deserved the chop. 

Conspiracy Theorist:
But then you need to depend upon the veracity of the Warden, fine if it’s Carlos, but Justin DuMorne was a Warden, how many people did he ‘clear’ how many did he ‘damn’ and did he clear some he knew were guilty, and damn some he knew were innocent.

Basically unless a soul gaze can be recorded and played back to third parties they are worthless. You can only check on the veracity of the person reporting on the soulgaze by soulgazing them, but then are you telling the truth ?

Frankly the best objective determinator now is the Sword of Faith it can’t harm the innocent and is capable of rendering different judgements on individuals depending on the circumstances of the case, and you can video what it does.

Arjan:

--- Quote from: Mira on March 29, 2022, 11:11:55 AM ---Apparently a lot as far as the White Council is concerned.. Let's not forget that a Warden is required to do a soul gaze on a defendant, then give testimony about what he or she saw in a trail that could cost the defendant his or her head.  Also the Merlin, in Proven Guilty told Harry that he, himself soul gazed the Korean Kid and that he was not redeemable, thus deserved the chop.

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But that is double subjectivity. First there is the soul gaze itself and then there is the merlin communicating it. Maybe the Korean boy could have been saved.

Mira:

--- Quote from: Arjan on March 30, 2022, 08:05:23 AM ---But that is double subjectivity. First there is the soul gaze itself and then there is the merlin communicating it. Maybe the Korean boy could have been saved.

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 Perhaps, that is an interesting scene because the Merlin is trying to assure Harry that the kid was unredeemable,  but at the same time expressing with extreme prejudice, that the answer for most of the kids that begin down that road is the chop.

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