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Star Born (direct quotes compilation)
Mira:
--- Quote from: Conspiracy Theorist on March 28, 2022, 01:05:25 AM ---Apparently in WOJ in 2010, Justin DuMorne thought Elaine might be a Starborn like Harry.
This may suggest he didn’t have Elaine’s exact date and time of birth, but her apparent age and general background may have made him suspect this, whereas with Harry he definitely knew. But what if his suspicions were incorrect? Someone fudged things and placed Elaine as a candidate for Justin to find, as bait? One of the other players using a fake Starborn to find Harry (the real deal) when neither his grandfather nor Morgan could find him?
Could Elaine Mallory have been the Merlin’s plant? And he still lost her? It would explain why no one looked for her from the White Council, too many inconvenient questions would have arisen about the Merlin using a 10 year old girl as bait.
This theory allows Jim to lie/not lie and confuse the issue as to Starborn, which is exactly what it has done for the last 12 years.
Elaine’s medallion? Set dressing and perhaps a magical tracking device.
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I don't think that Jim lied twelve years ago, he just wasn't committing himself one way or the other, keeping his options open for her. She still could be star born, they seem to be popping up like mushrooms in the last couple of books.
Con:
Just want to say past fortnight I was like.1 post away from 10 pages. Glad we got there. Team effort people.
Conspiracy Theorist:
--- Quote from: Mira on March 28, 2022, 10:57:11 AM ---I don't think that Jim lied twelve years ago, he just wasn't committing himself one way or the other, keeping his options open for her. She still could be star born, they seem to be popping up like mushrooms in the last couple of books.
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Much more nuanced, a character who is DED thought Elaine was a Starborn according to Jim. Everyone was looking for Harry who dropped off the face of the Earth because of who he was, a wizard Starborn. If everything else fails why not put a fake out there to see who took the real thing? You need a child of approximately the right age with magical ability, you can fudge the records on the former, and the child’s memory, but not the latter.
Justin may have used the Walker to help enslave Elaine, which proved she was NOT Starborn, she wasn’t immune to their influence.
Mira:
--- Quote from: Conspiracy Theorist on March 28, 2022, 08:41:50 PM ---Much more nuanced, a character who is DED thought Elaine was a Starborn according to Jim. Everyone was looking for Harry who dropped off the face of the Earth because of who he was, a wizard Starborn. If everything else fails why not put a fake out there to see who took the real thing? You need a child of approximately the right age with magical ability, you can fudge the records on the former, and the child’s memory, but not the latter.
Justin may have used the Walker to help enslave Elaine, which proved she was NOT Starborn, she wasn’t immune to their influence.
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Do you have the exact WOJ? I remember vaguely the quote that she could be one. I am not so sure that she isn't since they keep popping up these days. Yes, it appears she was vulnerable to enthrallment, but in Summer Knight supposedly she went along with Aurora when she was ordered to tie up Harry to be dealt with later. If you will remember Harry escaped and later Elaine told him she had planned it that way and used the same knot she used when Justin ordered her to tie him up, so he could escape him. But that gets weird in my opinion, because how the enthrallment went down in Harry's memory was different in Ghost Story.
Conspiracy Theorist:
It’s actually listed in Elaine’s page of the Dresden Wiki.
Jim definitely had “The Lady of Shalott” in mind when creating the character, she died alone and untouched in her tower of unrequited love when Lancelot passed her over (Elaine Lilian (The Lily is a sign of purity in the poem and wider)Mallory) here this Elaine survived both Harry and his love. Not to be confused with the other Elaine in Mallory’s Morte d’ Arthur, who was Galahad’s mum (or is it, does Harry have an adult son by Elaine (who wasn’t pure and untouched) who will take the Grail from Nicky?)
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