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What Should Butters Ask For?

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hiddendotgif:
I like the idea of Butters getting Bob pardoned.
However, may I propose; Butters asking for a mantle of some kind.
This is very far-fetched, and likely won't happen, but Butters sees his friends and family getting hurt, even with Harry's help. While Harry was bucket-kicked, Butters had taken over as the town's magical vigilante, with the help of Bob, of course. So, what better way to help than to get more power?

Obviously not going to happen, as Butters is far too smart to take anything tying him to Mab or Winter
But imagine Butters with proper Power, and the knowledge and common sense to use it.

Oh yeah, plus the lightsaber-sword

Mira:

--- Quote from: hiddendotgif on December 17, 2021, 01:06:37 PM ---I like the idea of Butters getting Bob pardoned.
However, may I propose; Butters asking for a mantle of some kind.
This is very far-fetched, and likely won't happen, but Butters sees his friends and family getting hurt, even with Harry's help. While Harry was bucket-kicked, Butters had taken over as the town's magical vigilante, with the help of Bob, of course. So, what better way to help than to get more power?

Obviously not going to happen, as Butters is far too smart to take anything tying him to Mab or Winter
But imagine Butters with proper Power, and the knowledge and common sense to use it.

Oh yeah, plus the lightsaber-sword

--- End quote ---

A big factor in the fear Butters had of Harry in Skin Game, was Bob.  Yes, Butters was very angry that young kids were being abducted and Harry wasn't around to try and stop it.  What he didn't know was the reason why he wasn't, was he was in a coma on Demonreach.  Getting back to Bob, he has a long history with Mab, he is on her "shit list," and he is afraid of her.  He has a distinct view point of her and tends to prejudice those he influences against her, the Winter Knight's gig, and the Winter Court.  It was a factor in Harry's suicide, not totally of course, there were a lot factors but the information Bob had always given him was negative, and it prejudiced Harry's view point and he is a wizard with more information than most.  Take Butters, who most of the time has an open mind, but knows next to nothing about the Winter Court etc, he bought into what Bob told him and believed Harry had turned into a monster because this is what Bob believes based on his own baggage with the Winter Court.

Conspiracy Theorist:
I wonder if Bob wanted a replacement Sanctum not beholden to an owner because he wants his freedom from Harry or whoever holds the skull? Bonea is not under the compulsions Bob is in his Sanctum.

Harry is still under obligation to provide a Sanctum for Bob, he could do so far easier now having made one before, with that and a pardon from Mab Bob would effectively be a free agent.

I would love to see a free Bob in a new Sanctum make himself an ectoplasm body (modelled after the one he had in his Sanctum in Ghost Story) and take a sledgehammer to his old Sanctum as his first act. Harry had long threatened it, but it would be cathartic for Bob.

Free Bob!

ZhonLord:
Honestly, from a meta perspective, what he should probably ask is to have Mab seek a way to remove the Death Curse on Harry.  It's a big part of the reason he drives people away, gets them hurt, or otherwise isolates from them / keeps them in the dark for "their own good" (see: Ramirez), and it's resulted in a number of physical and emotional scars to everyone around him.  At this rate something will happen to Maggie too.  Mab would even have incentive to do it now, with this proposed marriage to the White Vampire Court; the curse could easily affect Lara too and that would be bad news for the White Court if she were crippled in some way after the arranged marriage was complete.

I'm fairly certain Ma-excuse me, the Winter Queen, has been taking advantage of the curse to help make sure her Knight is strong enough to stand and fight on his own, but turning a curse into an asset can only go so far.  At some point it'll be a hindrance to her plans.  And Butters would be the most likely person to know about the curse since he was literally part of the team helping save Harry's life when the curse was first placed.

But, that's a meta perspective.  What's LIKELY going to happen is that Butters is going to find out about some plan or other of the Queen's and call in his favor to have her change how it plays out, so that fewer/no innocent lives are caught in the crossfire even if it makes her plan less efficient / more risky. 

Conspiracy Theorist:
WOJ has it that the Cassius death curse has been discharged/is ineffective (“we all die alone”). Cassius wasn’t the sharpest knife in the box and should really have gone with “die unloved” so that Harry predeceases everyone who loves him. That would have hurt Harry more. Cassius really didn’t understand love.

Yes, pretty much everyone agrees that Butters will call in the favour on behalf of someone else, I suspect in a fashion which really grates against what Mab perceives to be Winters nature, like how Molly got them to be the “Good People”. That showed that Winter had unexpected depths not limited by the Mantles, but allowed by them, and surprised Mab. Both Harry and Molly are changing Winter, what if that is Butters Favour? To elicit further change? He is owed a really major favour, what if Mab is really surprised that she can actually grant it. To cause Winter to cease preying on humanity, and become a protector other than just at the Outer Gates? To prey instead on that which would prey on Humanity, wild Fae, rogue White Court vampires, the Black Court etc.

We are seeing a re-alignment of the Accorded Nations to treat more publicly with humanity, that is new.

Harry’s big fear for both him and Molly is that Winter will make them Monsters. What if instead they and Butters cease to make Winter monstrous? If humanity deals openly with its monsters they become less monstrous.

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