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HeWhoSucksAtWalking:

--- Quote from: Ed0517 on April 04, 2022, 05:29:36 AM ---Well, human memory is basically the start of history - so we do not have anything putting the Blacks or Reds first, and Etruscan predates Latin - but is it a language the Whites picked up because they were in the area? Or did the locals pick up what the WHITES were talking, with the WC being the seed?

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maybe Lara will go in on some .wC backstory when she's having public dinners and parties before,/if they get betrothed.

Conspiracy Theorist:

--- Quote from: Ed0517 on April 04, 2022, 05:23:55 AM ---I just love this shade throw.... the Ringo of the Elders.... LOL

(what do you call a drummer whose girlfriend broke up with him? Homeless.)

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If Jim doesn’t reference her as Ringo at their next meeting I will be severely disappointed, its something crying out for a Harry wisecrack.

g33k:

--- Quote from: Mira on March 31, 2022, 06:34:18 PM ---  I might be wrong, but who or what the "Black Court" is has never really been spelled out.  In the beginning Harry called them that, then wasn't that changed to "the Circle" or something like that in later books?  We know they are bad asses, but just who and with whom they are allied with, is mostly a mystery. Lots of guesses, but no one really knows
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(edit - I see this point was already addressed, and I somehow missed it...  My bad, apologies all; deleted.)

The nature and origin of the Blampire court is mostly kinda-sorta known.  Probably.  Maybe.

The wizards (or maybe "wizards and others") ... notsomuch.
The "Circle" crops up in White Knight (heh... crop circle!) between Vitto and Madrigal (who wants in), but interestingly we see nothing about any such organization in the later (more-informed) conversation between Vitto and Cowl; indeed we see instead that Madrigal is being substantially misled (about what, we do not know, but -- Cowl:"And the fool with you?" Vitto:"Still ignorant, my lord."; so I don't see this as any strong indication that "the Circle" was anything other than part of a con Vitto was running on Madrigal).

Conspiracy Theorist:
If the White Council are Wizards, surely that makes Cowl and Kumori and their ilk Blizards. Then that makes Eb and the Gatekeeper and his merry little band who turned up at the end of Changes Gizards?

The Black Council is what Harry calls the Group, how they describe themselves is another matter.

The Circle is intriguing, my theory that the White God will come into being on the Singularity merging with an Archangel level being closing a cause and effect loop and becoming the paramount entity in creation makes sense if the Circle are bent on closing that loop with their candidate Lucifer. As I say my money’s on Uriel he has the most contact with humans and was briefly human giving rise to an anthropomorphic god rather than something which looks like an Outsider.

From Wikipedia

“In mystical doctrines, the circle mainly symbolises the infinite and cyclical nature of existence, but in religious traditions it represents heavenly bodies and divine spirits. The circle signifies many sacred and spiritual concepts, including unity, infinity, wholeness, the universe, divinity, balance, stability and perfection, among others.”

See basically it’s another name for the Singularity. When the Singularity occurs the Outsiders are locked out forever across creation, the White God becomes paramount and establishes linear time so humanity can exist and eventuality create the Singularity and this is the last cycle (the Endgame as Listen puts it) before the Singularity and Harry’s the last generation of Starborn. As a Wizard Harry may live long enough to see the Singularity.

g33k:

--- Quote from: HeWhoSucksAtWalking on April 03, 2022, 07:39:28 AM ---Yeah guys when I wrote BC I meant Black Court..sorry for the misunderstanding ...
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The DV has this as an issue for the fandom's writing -- BC, WC, etc -- Black & White Courts & Councils; also the fae Winter Court "WC."  We love our acronyms, but occasionally they do cause us some problems!

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