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Death Foreshadowing
Con:
So am rereading Proven Guity and there's a Lash quote thats always bothered me.
--- Quote ---"I mean no insult by it but you should know that your ability to comprehend your environment is very strongly defined by your belief in a number of illusions. Time. Truth. Love. That kind of thing. It isn't your fault of course- but it does impose limits upon your ability to percieve and understand some matters."
... "To do so you would have to release your hold on mortality"
... She sighed. "Again you only have a partial understanding. But in the interest of expediency, yes. You would have to cease living"
--- End quote ---
So what do you think Dresdens new understanding would be now that he's died or atleast 'ceased living' for awhile?
Mira:
--- Quote from: Con on November 21, 2021, 03:08:04 AM ---So am rereading Proven Guity and there's a Lash quote thats always bothered me.
So what do you think Dresdens new understanding would be now that he's died or atleast 'ceased living' for awhile?
--- End quote ---
I always thought that passage was Lasciel attempting one more time to get Harry to take up the coin. Notice she refers to time, truth, and love as illusions, while Harry stubbornly clings to them, and ironically that is what causes her to fall in love with him and changes her shadow to Lash. To cease to believe in those things is to become cynical, and it's the cynical that take up a coin. I don't think dying or near death changed his outlook on time, truth, or love, but the loss of Murphy may have.
Conspiracy Theorist:
The quote isn’t to foreshadow death but quite the opposite, to renounce his mortality and become immortal.
Harry has this option, he could perform a Darkhallow, like Cowl intended or make or take a Mantle granting immortality such as with Kringle. Harry taking up the coin would be a BIG move in that direction. Denarians are not immortal, but Lash could certainly show Harry how to become one, making him the perfect partner.
Mira:
--- Quote from: Conspiracy Theorist on November 21, 2021, 11:21:09 AM ---The quote isn’t to foreshadow death but quite the opposite, to renounce his mortality and become immortal.
Harry has this option, he could perform a Darkhallow, like Cowl intended or make or take a Mantle granting immortality such as with Kringle. Harry taking up the coin would be a BIG move in that direction. Denarians are not immortal, but Lash could certainly show Harry how to become one, making him the perfect partner.
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I think Denarians are pretty much immortal as long as they hold the coin, at least Nic seems to be he is a couple of thousand years old or more, and there is evidence that others are also that old.
Conspiracy Theorist:
The average Denarian isn’t immortal, enough physical damage will kill them, Nick has the backup of the Noose to prevent. Quite a few drowned when the Shed Aquarium broke. Immortals can only be killed on Halloween, or at a special place designed in accordance with any Mantle. Otherwise you risk breaking reality (Reality is weaker at Halloween, so I have changed my mind somewhat as to whether the Eye could have killed an immortal, the answeris yes, but it will also kill the universe.
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