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Con:
--- Quote from: Mira on September 16, 2021, 08:47:08 PM ---
It depends on their area of expertise, we've seen what the Merlin can do, Eb, Listens to Wind, and Lord only knows what Rashid can do if pressed.. Of all of them I think Rashid get's the prize because you don't get to be a general at the Outer Gates if you are a butterfly.. Considering the deference he usually gets when he does show up to Council meetings, he is the strongest, the most dangerous, and everyone else knows it. Actually out of all the wizards on the Senior Council, he and Harry have the most in common.
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Agreed. Also somewhat supported by WOJ that Rashid was the last one to do what Harry's doing now, and by Rashid himself in Cold Days in that he knows "precisely" how it feels to be where Harry is now.
Ebenezar would be a close second, not just cause Grandfather relation but because Harry believes in everything he does believe in because of Ebenezar. True meaning of magic is to protect people.
groinkick:
--- Quote from: Mira on September 16, 2021, 08:47:08 PM ---
It depends on their area of expertise, we've seen what the Merlin can do, Eb, Listens to Wind, and Lord only knows what Rashid can do if pressed.. Of all of them I think Rashid get's the prize because you don't get to be a general at the Outer Gates if you are a butterfly.. Considering the deference he usually gets when he does show up to Council meetings, he is the strongest, the most dangerous, and everyone else knows it. Actually out of all the wizards on the Senior Council, he and Harry have the most in common.
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" Rashid is, by far, the most dangerous of the Senior Council. Which is not the same thing as most powerful." - Jim
Mira:
--- Quote from: groinkick on September 17, 2021, 03:56:44 AM ---" Rashid is, by far, the most dangerous of the Senior Council. Which is not the same thing as most powerful." - Jim
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Which sort of follows the other WOJ that we were talking about in the other thread. One also has
to define "power" which you know means many different things in many different contexts, as does dangerous. Who wins out? The most dangerous or the most powerful? It depends....
Ed0517:
I always sort of expected wizard power to be on a curve. I'm gonna geek a little, forgive me, I ain't no English major. People who know me I am all BS (that didn't come out right....) . A curve asymptotic to both axes. Let the Y axis be the number of people, the x axis their power level. At near 0 power there are 8 billion people. Can't even get enough juice for Flickum Bicus. I think it was established there was roughly 2000 White council members. So... about 1 for every 4 million people. Yes, they miss an Elaine or two, but they likely have most of them. But when the Skavis was killing the Paranetters, Elaine said he had 36 she knew of. If they were also 4 million to 1, that is nearly half the US contingent (assuming US dispersion is the same as worldwide), yet there are still a handful in Chicago we see, and Elaine only knew some cities. Therefore, the low powers are more common than high power. More people with 100 IQs than 150s. So Harry is high-end. But that curve is flattening out REAL fast there. So a gain may not pass too many. Though we know he moves up with Morgan gone, and likely Simon Pietrovich, and LaFortier. Luccio said even in her old body she didn't have his raw power.
Harry is not top 30 or 40 in his age cohort. Gatekeeper said he was probably the MOST powerful of his generation in Turn Coat. That 30 or 40 is compared to the old guard, the Ebs, Rashid, Langtry, Morgan. It appears you gain power with age. Harry is getting there, but he is not there yet.
Ed0517:
--- Quote from: Con on September 16, 2021, 08:37:44 PM ---Yeah Ebenezar says Klaus turned down the Senior Council spot in Turn Coat to make room for Cristos.
If Carlos, Bill, Yoshimo and Chandler were all considered Elite Wardens enough to be the Senior Councils bodyguards, and Harry outranks them all that alone puts him in the top 10.
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I don't think they were really dedicated bodyguards for the most part. Chandler is usually around the Seniors, yes, and guarding Ways, but Bill Meyers was a regular Warden down towards Texas, Harry was his boss. Carlos was western regional commander. Having Carlos and Bill get called up to a US fight is nothing odd. Until the last couple of books had we even seen Yoshimo? We had referenced her, when Harry was researching the ancestry of the Knights of the Cross. But just in a letter. They were NOT in the guard detail that went to Demonreach, and it should be expected Mai would have called in some heavies for that. And really, do we know where Chandler ranked? We know he had Carlos and Bill. Chandler is a guess.
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