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magnuskn:
Kinda amazed that nobody asked a single question about Murphy.

Mira:

--- Quote from: magnuskn on September 12, 2021, 01:29:11 PM ---Kinda amazed that nobody asked a single question about Murphy.

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Let her rest in peace,  I don't think we will see her again unless Harry is killed off in the BAT, then Gard will pick him up to join Murphy in Valhalla.

morriswalters:

--- Quote from: groinkick on September 12, 2021, 04:12:15 AM ---They need free will to take up the Mantle, not after.  I'm guessing if Molly had no intention of taking it up, it wouldn't have gone to her.

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As a matter of language that isn't what he appeared to say.  He said to take up the mantle they need to be mortal. Mortals by his definition have free will. Lea created a condition where the mantle would go to Molly if no other prepared candidates were available.

Mira:

--- Quote from: morriswalters on September 12, 2021, 06:06:29 PM ---As a matter of language that isn't what he appeared to say.  He said to take up the mantle they need to be mortal. Mortals by his definition have free will. Lea created a condition where the mantle would go to Molly if no other prepared candidates were available.

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Perhaps, but at some point Molly had to have known this was the case and accepted the conditions of her own free will.  If she didn't and the mantle merely popped into her because she was the nearest vessel, then it wasn't of her free will.  Molly knowing when she accepted her "Auntie's" training that she was also accepting possible conditions for accepting a mantle is critical and never as far as I can tell been fully explained.  One way it was of her own free will, the other is that it wasn't, and that she was tricked into it by Lea and Mab.  Actually the latter is very possible, given how dangerous bargaining with the Fae can be..  The Fae cannot lie, but their view of truth isn't the same as for mere humans who end up with the short end of the stick usually in any Fae bargain.  In other words they got what they bargained for down to the last letter, only to find out it wasn't what they really were bargaining for in the first place.

RobReece:
There's an audio file on YouTube

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