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Who do you think the Vampires took from Eb?
groinkick:
When Harry said because they took Maggie from him, Eb said "her too". It was almost like an afterthought to me like his hate for them was deeper than Maggie. It came before her.
Eb is over 300 years old, and Maggie was around 100 when Harry was born. So Eb went 200 years without other children? I was thinking it may have been his wife who was taken from him, but now I'm wondering if Eb had a wife, and children before meeting Maggie's mother, and that's why he kept her at arms length. He'd already lost one family, and when he had her, he raised her differently.
I think the way he talked about Harry and Maggie, and how Harry was putting a target on her back, and he was beyond livid about it. He was very very upset. Then his talk about the vampires reached the point of being over the top. Even when facing Outsiders he took the time to be upset about the vampires.. This has to be more than losing some friends to vampires. The only thing that makes sense is he had a family before Maggie, and her mother.
My theory is that Eb had a wife, and kids, and they were all slaughtered by vampires, maybe even turning them into vamps that Eb later destroyed.
What do you think? What do you think could have driven Eb to the point of murderous rage finding out Thomas was his grandchild? I can't think of anything else besides losing a wife, a child or more.
morriswalters:
Per the semi official timeline Maggie was about 160, give or take, when Harry was born. Spry wasn't she? Eb was born in 1700. Mom died in 1810. To be fair to Maggie, she spent a lot of time in deep faerie. This is just a guess but it's possible that the closer you get to the Gates the slower time passes. Which may be why Rashid can be 700 years old. I think Eb had a friend who was a White. Maybe Lara.
Second Aristh:
I thought the "her too" was Maggie Sr and Maggie? Vampires stole two people that should have been in Harry's life.
groinkick:
--- Quote from: Second Aristh on August 29, 2021, 01:51:00 AM ---I thought the "her too" was Maggie Sr and Maggie? Vampires stole two people that should have been in Harry's life.
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Eb said "Her too". So the vampires took more than Maggie Sr from Eb. I don't think he was speaking of little Maggie because he never lost her, she's still around.
--- Quote from: morriswalters on August 29, 2021, 01:47:28 AM ---Per the semi official timeline Maggie was about 160, give or take, when Harry was born. Spry wasn't she? Eb was born in 1700. Mom died in 1810. To be fair to Maggie, she spent a lot of time in deep faerie. This is just a guess but it's possible that the closer you get to the Gates the slower time passes. Which may be why Rashid can be 700 years old. I think Eb had a friend who was a White. Maybe Lara.
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Even if Maggie was 200, that meant Eb went 100 years without any other children? I think that's probably unlikely. My guess is that he was much like Harry when he was younger and he probably had at least one child before the age of 40.
My opinion is that Eb growing up was idealistic and had a family, or at least started one. Then he became aware of the cold, harsh world that Harry is learning about. This is why Eb is so against Harry having Maggie. He knows the reality of being a wizard, especially a wizard with a reputation.
Second Aristh:
Simon Pietrovich is also a candidate for another person that Eb lost. It meant enough to him that "Remember Archangel" was his battle cry in Changes.
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