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Could Dresden have been wrong about Thorned?

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Mira:

--- Quote from: The_Sibelis on September 08, 2021, 01:43:51 PM ---Again, and I don't know how clearer to pronounce this, the attack doesn't explain why mab doesn't later retaliate, which is the key question levied by everyone about the situation. This is why the whamps are capturing little folk in WK, to measure there response. Because someone did something they well know should have gotten an eventual response, but it never did.

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Was it?  The impression I got was the the White Court were enslaving for lack of a better word the Little Folk because they are mostly disregarded by either the Winter or the Summer Court.  Mab calls them "the lowest," in Summer Knight so I doubt the White Court were trying to measure whether or not they'd get a rise out of either Mab or Titania on the matter.  They were actually a bit surprised that Harry objected and demanded their release if I remember correctly.  It is because he cared when no one else did that Harry has their fierce loyalty according to Toot.

You can say that by humiliating Nic, forcing him to sacrifice his daughter was pretty good retaliation.  Yes, Marcone supposedly was the reason, but I wouldn't be shocked if she had other reasons as in payback for the attack.  One reason is though she might know that Namshiel used hell fire on Arctis Tor, she also knows he wouldn't have been the one behind the attack. 

The_Sibelis:

--- Quote from: Mira on September 08, 2021, 02:50:32 PM ---Was it?  The impression I got was the the White Court were enslaving for lack of a better word the Little Folk because they are mostly disregarded by either the Winter or the Summer Court.  Mab calls them "the lowest," in Summer Knight so I doubt the White Court were trying to measure whether or not they'd get a rise out of either Mab or Titania on the matter.  They were actually a bit surprised that Harry objected and demanded their release if I remember correctly.  It is because he cared when no one else did that Harry has their fierce loyalty according to Toot.
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yes, Harry even confronts them about that being there reason. Get a rise, measure the response, whichever way you say it, you just agreed with the premise. Although I wouldn't say enslaved, they just captured them, they didn't put them to work.

morriswalters:
Mab has had her revenge on everyone she can find.  The plan and attack that started in Grave Peril, is defeated, finally, in Cold Days.  Nemesis ploy has been defeated. The Reds are all dead. That attack cost her a Knight and her daughter and crippled Lea.

In Proven Guilty, at her weakest, she fears an attack by Summer and has been attacked by the Phantom Menace. She is concealing her weakness from her enemies both real and imagined. She smiles at the end because Harry has done what she couldn't do, reveal what Summer would do were she to remove her troops from the border.

Lara is testing Mab's limits when she uses the fairies as lanterns.

The_Sibelis:

--- Quote ---The Reds are all dead
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yep, by Harry's hand. Mab even admits she let Lea have more reign in CH because of the recompense she was owed. But again the off thing is why she didn't move to get recompense in the way everyone expected her to. In the most vital way, she passed that debt along to someone else. A very fairy thing to do if say, you made a deal not to retaliate on a matter.

Mira:

--- Quote ---Lara is testing Mab's limits when she uses the fairies as lanterns.
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Did she?  Mab hasn't done a thing about that, in fact it sounds like she continues to owe Lara.  When Harry demanded the little folk be freed he wasn't the Winter Knight.  Toot may wear Winter Colors now, but his allegiance is to the Za'Lord..

--- Quote ---yes, Harry even confronts them about that being there reason. Get a rise, measure the response, whichever way you say it, you just agreed with the premise. Although I wouldn't say enslaved, they just captured them, they didn't put them to work.

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But Harry wasn't Winter Knight at the time, he didn't free them on behalf of Mab or in her name.. Harry did it because he felt it was the right thing to do, Mab had nothing to do with it.

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