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Could Dresden have been wrong about Thorned?
Second Aristh:
--- Quote from: morriswalters on September 08, 2021, 04:22:57 PM ---Mab has had her revenge on everyone she can find. The plan and attack that started in Grave Peril, is defeated, finally, in Cold Days. Nemesis ploy has been defeated. The Reds are all dead. That attack cost her a Knight and her daughter and crippled Lea.
In Proven Guilty, at her weakest, she fears an attack by Summer and has been attacked by the Phantom Menace. She is concealing her weakness from her enemies both real and imagined. She smiles at the end because Harry has done what she couldn't do, reveal what Summer would do were she to remove her troops from the border.
Lara is testing Mab's limits when she uses the fairies as lanterns.
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The whole reason the big powers are freaking out in PG is because Mab was not allowing a joint faerie revenge on the Reds. Instead, she kept forces on her borders to threaten Summer. It confused Summer and prompted Eb to send Harry in to figure out what went screwy with Mab.
Arctis Tor is probably involved, but that whole battle is confusing. It was bad enough to kill elite trolls, but not bad enough that Mab got nervous and called in border forces. Not until Harry used Summer fire on the Winter Wellspring and basically did it for Mab (allowing for a one-time Summer attack on the Reds). Everyone knew what Summer would do when Mab had a less threatening posture against them; that's not a mystery.
The explanation for why Mab didn't allow for retaliation can't be just "the Arctis Tor attack". That's like asking why the sunset is red and answering "because of the atmosphere". It's so incomplete that it doesn't really even answer the question.
Mira:
--- Quote ---The explanation for why Mab didn't allow for retaliation can't be just "the Arctis Tor attack". That's like asking why the sunset is red and answering "because of the atmosphere". It's so incomplete that it doesn't really even answer the question.
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That doesn't mean she won't go in for covert retaliation for the attack on Arctis Tor, Marcone was just a good excuse and cover for her real motives.
Second Aristh:
--- Quote from: Mira on September 08, 2021, 06:59:28 PM ---That doesn't mean she won't go in for covert retaliation for the attack on Arctis Tor, Marcone was just a good excuse and cover for her real motives.
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Some Denarian (with hints that it was Namshiel) attacked Arctis Tor, but that's not the retaliation we're talking about. The Reds violated Mab's and Titania's territories, and Mab didn't allow any retaliation against them in PG.
In the usual sequence of events, both Summer and Winter go after the Reds immediately like Eb and the White Council were expecting. This points to weird circumstances that we don't fully understand.
morriswalters:
Exactly who would have led her troops and who would have protected Arctis Tor?
Second Aristh:
--- Quote from: morriswalters on September 08, 2021, 08:33:30 PM ---Exactly who would have led her troops and who would have protected Arctis Tor?
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Kringle, Cat Sith, Grimmalken, the Red Cap.... Those are just the characters where we have names. Any of them could lead groups of Winter forces against rampires.
Edit: Took out Sarissa. On further thought, I don't think she could have herself led an attack against Reds.
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