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Who summoned the Cornerhounds?
groinkick:
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I think we have to look at motive here. What was the timing of it and the reason behind it? I don't think it was a coincidence that the attack came very close to Harry's visit to Justine. Nemesis knows if anyone can figure it out, it would be Harry, the Cornerhound attack was pure diversion. I am not sure that the Cornerhounds had to be summoned in the conventional way since there were already an Outsider present in Justine.
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Well if it was Justine I think it's because she wanted Harry out of the way, and saw him as a problem. Didn't want him at the talks, and didn't want him blowing her cover. The Corner Hounds were a way of removing Dresden without exposing herself.
It may have been Marcone, who wanted Harry eliminated.
Carlos who was also in town could be another Nemfected individual. The way he acts does make me think someone is turning him against Dresden. Nemesis, Merlin, or someone else.
I don't think it was Eb because he came damn close to dying himself.
I think the most obvious choice is Justine, and it would become obvious once it was shown she was possessed by a Walker. That being said it could have been someone else, and that would be a pretty interesting mystery.
What we need is someone to ask Jim. He either says Justine, or "I'm not gonna tell you".
Mira:
--- Quote ---Well if it was Justine I think it's because she wanted Harry out of the way, and saw him as a problem. Didn't want him at the talks, and didn't want him blowing her cover. The Corner Hounds were a way of removing Dresden without exposing herself.
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Bingo
--- Quote ---It may have been Marcone, who wanted Harry eliminated.
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Motive? The attack happens right after Harry's visit to Justine. Some things about his interview with her seemed off, but before he can absorb any of that he is attacked by Cornerhounds. Yeah, most of the time Marcone would like to eliminate Harry, but at the same time he is a member in good standing in the Accords, and I doubt he would risk if word got back to her about the attack of offending Mab. No, I doubt it was Marcone.
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Carlos who was also in town could be another Nemfected individual. The way he acts does make me think someone is turning him against Dresden. Nemesis, Merlin, or someone else.
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Again possible, and he could be infected but at the same time, since he and his Wardens were
putting Harry under the microscope, he could have easily come up with a "justified Warden" killing of Harry and except for his small circle of allies on the Senior Council, it wouldn't be questioned. Also timing, Carlos had no clue about Justine.
--- Quote ---What we need is someone to ask Jim. He either says Justine, or "I'm not gonna tell you".
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He may not say just so he can keep his options open.. ::)
Second Aristh:
Surely there is some kind of limitation for Nemfected mortals from summoning Outsiders. Otherwise, Nemesis's strategy doesn't make sense. It could hole up somewhere and summon an army right around the Outer Gates. I don't think Justine is a likely candidate for summoning the cornerhounds to our reality.
Mira:
--- Quote from: Second Aristh on August 20, 2021, 07:18:09 PM ---Surely there is some kind of limitation for Nemfected mortals from summoning Outsiders. Otherwise, Nemesis's strategy doesn't make sense. It could hole up somewhere and summon an army right around the Outer Gates. I don't think Justine is a likely candidate for summoning the cornerhounds to our reality.
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Why does there have to be? Nemesis infects with a strategy in mind, who it sends knows this. HWWB is a good soldier, I doubt he'd go rouge and allow his mortal host to summon up Cornerhounds "just because.." Also note that their mission appeared to be specific, get Harry and along with him Eb if they could.. When they failed they went back to where ever. Justine called them up for a purpose, to distract and stop Harry.. Harry even says it would take a mortal in the area to call them up if I remember correctly. If I did remember that correctly, that was a neon sign, screaming, "CLUE!" It's Justine. Unless it was the doorman, that is still possible.
The_Sibelis:
The limitation is freedom, mortals have to intentionally make a choice, even if it's a subconscious one. When she subverts them, they don't have much agency to do so. Pertshe could con one into it, but make someone do it? I doubt. It'd lack the mortal flavor.
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