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So are the Svartalves going to be at war with the White Court?
Second Aristh:
--- Quote from: Mira on August 19, 2021, 07:12:48 PM ---Yes, she is the Winter Lady, but lots of Molly remains.. Suggest you reread the short story, "Good People." Even if she was basically all Winter Lady, it isn't in the interest of the Winter Court or any other member of the Accords for one faction to be at war with another no matter how big the provocation was.
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Molly is Winter Lady enough that she can't give something away for nothing. The location of an enemy is valuable. All this is assuming that Molly knows, of course. She'd probably put together why Harry needed the illusion ring, but it isn't a given.
Ed0517:
--- Quote from: Second Aristh on August 19, 2021, 06:08:40 PM ---Are there svartalf spies in the White Court? They don't exactly blend in. Even if there are, they're not eavesdropping on what happened at Demonreach. The island's intellectus would have alerted him to other people on the island.
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the spies do not have to be Svaltalves. Did Harry have a spy in the White Court? Sure he did - Justine. The White Court didn't find her. She left when it was clear she was Nemfected. The Black Council had their agent in the White Council - LaFortier (plus others). Cowl had his agent in the White Court - Vitto Malvora. As for what happened on Demonreach - doesn't Lara have an organization? Vadderrung does - Monoc Securities. We know Lara employs humans - security, medical, Justine... Vadderung may as well. Reports get filed, and files get leaked. People who get secrets sell secrets. Money is power, and power corrupts.
Look at real life - Julius and Ethel Rosenberg were not Russians, were not present at atomic tests, and were Russian spies passing atomic secrets.
Ed0517:
--- Quote from: Mira on August 19, 2021, 06:28:06 PM ---No, but I can see Molly filling them in on all of that. Not sure how much Harry may have told her
but her assurance that Thomas wasn't escaping "justice" on the island would have gone a long way I think.
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I can't see Molly filling them in FOR FREE. Can favors be exchanged? My info for....
Second Aristh:
--- Quote from: Ed0517 on August 20, 2021, 02:01:19 AM ---the spies do not have to be Svaltalves. Did Harry have a spy in the White Court? Sure he did - Justine. The White Court didn't find her. She left when it was clear she was Nemfected. The Black Council had their agent in the White Council - LaFortier (plus others). Cowl had his agent in the White Court - Vitto Malvora. As for what happened on Demonreach - doesn't Lara have an organization? Vadderrung does - Monoc Securities. We know Lara employs humans - security, medical, Justine... Vadderung may as well. Reports get filed, and files get leaked. People who get secrets sell secrets. Money is power, and power corrupts.
Look at real life - Julius and Ethel Rosenberg were not Russians, were not present at atomic tests, and were Russian spies passing atomic secrets.
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Idk, the svartalves don't seem the type to place spies. They're very by-the-book.
Regardless, there were 4.5 people present near Demonreach at the end of PT. Harry, Lara, Justine, Murphy, and technically Thomas. Which one of them is gonna talk about what happened there? Not Harry, not Lara, and definitely not Murphy. It would all depend on Freydis, and if anyone she'd tell Vadderung. I don't think he'd tell either. The events on the island will stay secret.
Ed0517:
--- Quote from: Mira on August 19, 2021, 07:12:48 PM ---Yes, she is the Winter Lady, but lots of Molly remains.. Suggest you reread the short story, "Good People." Even if she was basically all Winter Lady, it isn't in the interest of the Winter Court or any other member of the Accords for one faction to be at war with another no matter how big the provocation was.
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I don't SEE a reason Winter, which is relatively unconcerned with this plane, would care so much... but I could see PLENTY of reasons other factions might like to see factions at war. The likes of the Swartalves could be weapons merchants. Sell to both sides. Other factions might benefit from another's demise - fill in the gap left when the Red court was obliterated. The Fomor got in good. A real life hypothetical - the US collapses. States war on states. Wisconsin gives Ohio, currently at war with Michigan, great information and weapons. Ohio wins, takes three quarters of Michigan, but lets WI take the UP in return for aid received.
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