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Mab's word play about the White Court
Mira:
--- Quote ---I thought it was obvious that Molly was jealous. It was why Mab told Harry to kill her if she(Mab) died. I think the part where the ground turns to frost under Molly's feet as they leave the castle, pretty much is Molly saying to Lara, you bitch you're stealing my man and I'm pissed.
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Except in that moment Harry was with Murphy and Molly didn't seem jealous of her. No, I think that Mab and Lara have something cooked up and Molly doesn't like it.
Yes, I liked those quotes as well, they fit with the conversation Mab had with Harry in Cold Days after Maeve died. Mab confessing that she was human once and has had to do terrible things for the sake of the world against the outside, and Harry is beginning to understand just what that means.
Ed0517:
--- Quote from: Mira on August 07, 2021, 11:44:42 PM ---Except in that moment Harry was with Murphy and Molly didn't seem jealous of her. No, I think that Mab and Lara have something cooked up and Molly doesn't like it.
Yes, I liked those quotes as well, they fit with the conversation Mab had with Harry in Cold Days after Maeve died. Mab confessing that she was human once and has had to do terrible things for the sake of the world against the outside, and Harry is beginning to understand just what that means.
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Couple of points on Murphy - Molly knows Harry and she have been close since Molly was a kid. It would (and did) wreck Harry to lose her. But... Murphy also talked about wanting someone to grow old with... which cannot be Harry, we know wizards live a long time - at least a couple of centuries for laFortier, Eb, Langtry, and Luccio. That could be a problem waiting to happen. Also, well, Murphy is divorced twice. Not a good track record with men. So... possible fault lines Molly can see now. And... Molly can be playing the long game. Murphy, even by natural causes, likely had 40 years or so left. Harry had at least a couple centuries.... even if being the Knight gives him no benefit. Molly might have been letting Harry have his fling.... and when Murphy passed... Harry is grieving. Michael is older, he's likely gone. He's estranged from Carlos. Maybe he could talk to Billy, but.... most likely, he turns to his old dear friend and co-worker Molly....
Mira:
--- Quote from: Ed0517 on August 08, 2021, 01:27:31 AM ---Couple of points on Murphy - Molly knows Harry and she have been close since Molly was a kid. It would (and did) wreck Harry to lose her. But... Murphy also talked about wanting someone to grow old with... which cannot be Harry, we know wizards live a long time - at least a couple of centuries for laFortier, Eb, Langtry, and Luccio. That could be a problem waiting to happen. Also, well, Murphy is divorced twice. Not a good track record with men. So... possible fault lines Molly can see now. And... Molly can be playing the long game. Murphy, even by natural causes, likely had 40 years or so left. Harry had at least a couple centuries.... even if being the Knight gives him no benefit. Molly might have been letting Harry have his fling.... and when Murphy passed... Harry is grieving. Michael is older, he's likely gone. He's estranged from Carlos. Maybe he could talk to Billy, but.... most likely, he turns to his old dear friend and co-worker Molly....
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I'd go along with that except Lara appeared to be just as shocked at Mab's proposal as Harry. No, it was more about Mab lending Harry to Lara to repay a favor.. Remember the last time she did that?
The_Sibelis:
Yea, I think Murphy had a "rank" in Molly's mind, and she knew she was good for Harry too. Lara has neither thing going for her in Molly's view though. She's an interloper who could steal Harry away for the rest of his expected existence.
Had considered this, it was for "mutual benefit" after all, Mab doesn't need the WCVs for herself, but they'd certainly help fortify Harry's position.
* Although... Mab has a habit of putting Harry in tight spaces with things she believes could be comprised too..
morriswalters:
--- Quote from: Mira on August 07, 2021, 11:44:42 PM ---Except in that moment Harry was with Murphy and Molly didn't seem jealous of her. No, I think that Mab and Lara have something cooked up and Molly doesn't like it.
Yes, I liked those quotes as well, they fit with the conversation Mab had with Harry in Cold Days after Maeve died. Mab confessing that she was human once and has had to do terrible things for the sake of the world against the outside, and Harry is beginning to understand just what that means.
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Familiarity breeds contempt. Murphy had always been there. Lara is an interloper. And Jim turned Molly into a eunuch.
The quotes are interesting to me because I believe they are some type of foreshadowing. Who was Mab before she was Mab? It got brought up at least twice in Battle Ground. Once by Mab and once by Korg.
The first suggests that Mab reached for power for many of the same reasons Harry did. To protect someone or some thing.
The second is more obscure and maybe more important. What choice did she make? She also says that the Winter Knight was created for this. If you have a dirty mind like me, one thing comes to mind. Lara is her daughter by Raith. That would certainly be a compatibility issue, don't you think? It could explain this.
--- Quote ---“Old woman,” Corb taunted. “I remember you as a bawling brat. I remember your pimply face when you rode with the Conqueror. I remember how you wept when Merlin cast you out.” Mab’s face . . . . . . twisted into naked, ugly, absolute rage. Her body became so rigid, so immobile, that it could not possibly have belonged to a living thing. “Tell me,” Corb purred. “If he was yet among the living, do you think he would still love you? Would he be so proud of what you’ve become?”
Butcher, Jim. Peace Talks (Dresden Files) (pp. 278-279). Penguin Publishing Group. Kindle Edition.
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The longer I read the more convinced I become that this has all happened before.
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