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Mab's word play about the White Court
Mira:
--- Quote ---The second is more obscure and maybe more important. What choice did she make? She also says that the Winter Knight was created for this. If you have a dirty mind like me, one thing comes to mind. Lara is her daughter by Raith. That would certainly be a compatibility issue, don't you think? It could explain this.
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“Old woman,” Corb taunted. “I remember you as a bawling brat. I remember your pimply face when you rode with the Conqueror. I remember how you wept when Merlin cast you out.” Mab’s face . . . . . . twisted into naked, ugly, absolute rage. Her body became so rigid, so immobile, that it could not possibly have belonged to a living thing. “Tell me,” Corb purred. “If he was yet among the living, do you think he would still love you? Would he be so proud of what you’ve become?”
Butcher, Jim. Peace Talks (Dresden Files) (pp. 278-279). Penguin Publishing Group. Kindle Edition.
The longer I read the more convinced I become that this has all happened before.
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History tends to repeat itself, but I don't know if I'd such a leap as to say that Lara is Mab's daughter. Are you saying that Lord Raith was at one time William the Conqueror?
Ed0517:
--- Quote from: Mira on August 08, 2021, 04:06:13 AM ---I'd go along with that except Lara appeared to be just as shocked at Mab's proposal as Harry. No, it was more about Mab lending Harry to Lara to repay a favor.. Remember the last time she did that?
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Oh, I do agree that Lara seemed shocked to be gifted Harry. But she has mentioned a few times to Harry she could use a partner she respects (not loves) and she has wondered what it would be like to "throw down" with Harry, I think she called it. And Molly may be afraid if they have to be together and act a couple.. they may BECOME one.
The_Sibelis:
--- Quote from: Mira on August 08, 2021, 09:44:36 PM ---History tends to repeat itself, but I don't know if I'd such a leap as to say that Lara is Mab's daughter. Are you saying that Lord Raith was at one time William the Conqueror?
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mwahaha the first thing I thought of when talking to Griff and he mentioned Oizys and moros was Harry is technically extended family to her. That'd make 3 siblings for this era too.
morriswalters:
--- Quote from: Mira on August 08, 2021, 09:44:36 PM ---History tends to repeat itself, but I don't know if I'd such a leap as to say that Lara is Mab's daughter. Are you saying that Lord Raith was at one time William the Conqueror?
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I'm not saying anything. I'm looking for types of things that would make a relationship between Lara and Mab incompatible because of some choice made by Mab before she was Mab. That was one.
Basil:
--- Quote from: Second Aristh on August 07, 2021, 09:16:45 PM ---Mab does few things for one reason. The marriage drives the White Council further away from him (hence closer to Mab), offers Harry protection he just lost, and somewhat wriggles out of a favor from Lara while putting a handle on her. All at once.
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This is right. And, I might add, also teaches Molly a lesson that she needs to learn.
--- Quote from: Ed0517 on August 08, 2021, 09:48:00 PM ---Oh, I do agree that Lara seemed shocked to be gifted Harry. But she has mentioned a few times to Harry she could use a partner she respects (not loves) and she has wondered what it would be like to "throw down" with Harry, I think she called it. And Molly may be afraid if they have to be together and act a couple.. they may BECOME one.
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I think it's an interesting question whether Lara respects, fears or might actually have a thing for Harry. I'm not sure that Lara is capable of love -- it is, of course, difficult to love one's food and real love is an anathema to the White Court. Lara might be capable of affection, she certainly has some f-ed up motherly/sisterly affection for Thomas. She might be able to have affection for Harry. (Desire of course, is easy for Lara).
Personally, I think Lara might actually have a thing for Harry. Harry is not quite the white-knighting bumbling nerd-avatar that he once was. I think he might start resembling Id-Harry more and more often, and Id-Harry is definitely someone Lara would want to hang out with.
--- Quote from: The_Sibelis on August 08, 2021, 07:09:35 AM ---Yea, I think Murphy had a "rank" in Molly's mind, and she knew she was good for Harry too. Lara has neither thing going for her in Molly's view though. She's an interloper who could steal Harry away for the rest of his expected existence.
Had considered this, it was for "mutual benefit" after all, Mab doesn't need the WCVs for herself, but they'd certainly help fortify Harry's position.
* Although... Mab has a habit of putting Harry in tight spaces with things she believes could be comprised too..
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I agree. Murphy definitely had "rank" on Molly here. If they were guys, I'd say this was a form of "Bros before Hos." Molly would never move on Harry unless Murphy was out of the picture for good. The fact that she died defending Harry makes this harder, but Molly at least has the benefit of knowing that she will not be Harry's rebound girl. In this way, Mab may have done Molly a solid, in the end.
Of course, she'll have to work around the Winter Lady thing, but there is one obvious solution to that problem.... removing Mab. Molly knows how to do it -- everyone on Demonreach the day that Lilly and Maeve died can work it out.
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