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Mac's identity
morriswalters:
Angels don't have free will, so exactly how did Mac ditch his grace? However there is someone in the text that would know how and isn't bound by any angelic restrictions.
Second Aristh:
--- Quote from: morriswalters on August 23, 2021, 10:30:04 PM ---Angels don't have free will, so exactly how did Mac ditch his grace? However there is someone in the text that would know how and isn't bound by any angelic restrictions.
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The same way Uriel did? Give it to OG Merlin who uses it to create the prison.
morriswalters:
Uriel was acting to take back Nic's knights, so I'm not seeing this as a violation of the rules. Nor did he just give it away and go off to run a tavern in Chicago.
I see Mac as more of a guy who got tired of angelic wars who just walked away. As long as he had his grace, and chose to use it, the placard became a keep out of death card since with his grace Mac is an immortal.
Second Aristh:
--- Quote from: morriswalters on August 23, 2021, 10:56:31 PM ---Uriel was acting to take back Nic's knights, so I'm not seeing this as a violation of the rules. Nor did he just give it away and go off to run a tavern in Chicago.
I see Mac as more of a guy who got tired of angelic wars who just walked away. As long as he had his grace, and chose to use it, the placard became a keep out of death card since with his grace Mac is an immortal.
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The Rules are still pretty mysterious. I don't think it's clear that giving mortals the strength to choose to lock up the worst of the worst is outside the bounds.
Uriel got his Grace returned. For a Mac=Raphael, that wouldn't be the case. Might as well open a bar nearby.
Yuillegan:
--- Quote from: morriswalters on August 23, 2021, 10:30:04 PM ---Angels don't have free will, so exactly how did Mac ditch his grace? However there is someone in the text that would know how and isn't bound by any angelic restrictions.
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Actually, I think that they don't have unlimited free will as mortals do. I think it's important to qualify it. Clearly they have some measure of it otherwise they couldn't choose to Fall at all - Jim mentioned this in an interview some time back. But that isn't to say they have the same amount of freedom mortals do.
I suspect it really comes down to Angels really only having a small number of choices. Maybe only 2. They can choose to Fall, and go against their true nature (I'm assuming). Or they can choose not to Fall - which is a choice in itself. I'm not so sure that they can choose to redeem themselves...but I would like that to be the case.
Mortals on the other hand seem to be able to make choices left and right, but I think their choices either give them more or less freedom the more they make.
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