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Resolving the Drakul/Dracula conflicting information

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Basil:
My own pet theory is that the White Court originated with a human wizard that "cut a deal" in a bid for immortality.  The White Court's official language is Etruscan and I suspect that makes dates them to not much later than 500BC or there about.  (Emperor Claudius was allegedly the last person in the real world who could speak and read Etruscan).  I don't think the deal quite went the way it was expected to (i.e., completely as expected for the readers) and that wizard couldn't really use his magical gift properly thereafter.

The creation of the first Black Court vampires could have been an attempt to "improve" upon that arrangement --  also an experiment that didn't go quite right. 

In short, I believe that the Reds came first, then the Whites and then finally the Black.

P.S. It's a theme in Western literature all the way back to the Epic of Gilgamesh (yes, I include the Sumerians as part of the West) that mortal attempts to achieve immortality all go awry. 

Yuillegan:

--- Quote from: Griffyn612 on August 01, 2021, 04:50:20 AM ---Now that his age is indefinite, it's all but impossible to pin down any facts.

I like the idea of the strix being a Greek-gods cursed human family that resulted in blood-drinking bird creatures, and for some reason a branch helped found the strigoi, like the magical equivalent of evolution. Then later, Drakul experimented to make a new breed that is the Blamp.

I think that would allow for different courts to evolve from their own regions and origins around the globe. Since blood drinking was fairly common back in the day, I could easily see each having a similar but different path.

Blood sacrifice to gods could have started it all over the place, or familial curses, or demonic possession... So many options, so little guidance.

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I totally missed your Thanatos theory. I quite like it, it certainly has some interesting ideas. It could be though that Thanatos is just another of this being's many identities too, but that's harder to guess.

Maybe Drakul cursed the original family that became Strix, and then modified it a bit to create Blamps. What's strange is that he seemingly stopped modifying Blamps. Why not improve them further, remove some or all of their weaknesses (if possible)? Or maybe the other bloodlines of vampires are the other modifications, but he has stuck with his original type. Or perhaps he just can't modify them further?

We definitely need a bit more information. I still think the vampires are strongly connected to the Outsiders, somehow. I don't quite get it altogether but there is some weird connection.


--- Quote from: Basil on August 01, 2021, 05:33:55 AM ---My own pet theory is that the White Court originated with a human wizard that "cut a deal" in a bid for immortality.  The White Court's official language is Etruscan and I suspect that makes dates them to not much later than 500BC or there about.  (Emperor Claudius was allegedly the last person in the real world who could speak and read Etruscan).  I don't think the deal quite went the way it was expected to (i.e., completely as expected for the readers) and that wizard couldn't really use his magical gift properly thereafter.

The creation of the first Black Court vampires could have been an attempt to "improve" upon that arrangement --  also an experiment that didn't go quite right. 

In short, I believe that the Reds came first, then the Whites and then finally the Black.

P.S. It's a theme in Western literature all the way back to the Epic of Gilgamesh (yes, I include the Sumerians as part of the West) that mortal attempts to achieve immortality all go awry. 

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Except apparently the Black Court have been around since the dawn of humankind. According to several sources. The Reds are a little bit after the early days of human civilization (which is well after the dawn of human kind), and the White Court are even younger again. I'd say Jade are probably as old as the Red Court, but maybe older. But I think the Black Court vampires themselves were the original type and the actual Black Court of Vampires only started after Vlad the Impaler organised them.

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