The Dresden Files > DF Spoilers
Marcone could probably beat Harry in a duel.
Mira:
--- Quote from: TheCuriousFan on July 07, 2021, 11:21:07 AM ---The fact that the host was a flesh puppet when it's confirmed that denarians that override their host have a lot less power to work with.
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Again, we don't know that, if old Thorny was a wizard to begin with, Namshiel could exploit that by presenting the idea that they had this lovely partnership. Consider how much more effective Namshiel would be if Harry had taken him up verses Marcone.. The host is a sock puppet, that doesn't make the Denarian less powerful, anymore than it does a Holy Knight when the angel in charge of the Sword takes over.
TheCuriousFan:
--- Quote from: Mira on July 07, 2021, 03:01:54 PM ---Again, we don't know that, if old Thorny was a wizard to begin with, Namshiel could exploit that by presenting the idea that they had this lovely partnership. Consider how much more effective Namshiel would be if Harry had taken him up verses Marcone.. The host is a sock puppet, that doesn't make the Denarian less powerful, anymore than it does a Holy Knight when the angel in charge of the Sword takes over.
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I've got to ask why you're so set on this headcanon that Namshiel's previous host was a full blown wizard in terms of raw power.
As for hosts being weaker it's WoJ.
--- Quote ---Q: Why did the Denarians in Small Favor seem less powerful than in Death Masks?
A: If a Fallen has essentially overpowered their human host, then they have limited free will (they can’t use the free will of the human); a Denarian is much more powerful if they use the human as a partner.
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Mira:
There is your answer, someone who already is a wizard when he or she becomes a host is more apt to be a partner than someone who is a mere sock puppet.. I went and reread the part of Battle Ground where Harry takes over the castle and talks about the runes with Molly. He says that Marcone never did much with them because he had no clue about what they meant and Namshiel either couldn't or didn't teach him... Which says Marcone never was a wizard, if he were he'd get the importance of them, and be most interested in Namshiel translating them for him.
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