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Ferrovax Identity - crazy theory
Bad Alias:
--- Quote from: Yuillegan on March 02, 2021, 05:09:30 AM ---The loss of wings is an interesting idea, but then again it isn't like the Fallen lost their powers either. We haven't seen any Fallen (normally represented by shadows) have wings.
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There are a couple of Denarian forms with wings or wing like features. There's "Shaggy Feathers" as Harry calls it and Rosana's Denarian form had the classic bat-like wings of a demon.
As to the appearance of angels, I think Jim might be basing that off the Bible. https://overviewbible.com/angels-demons/; https://biblia.com/books/nasb95/Eze1. The descriptions are often pretty wild stuff that bears no relation to the Renaissance paintings that have come to dominate the iconic imagery of beautiful humans with wings or fat babies with wings. In other parts of the Bible, it's the reaction of the human who the angel appears to that makes me think they look startling.
As to the Creator issue, I think a less than all powerful creator is a good choice for a fictional fantasy setting, or just don't directly answer the question. It makes avoiding or addressing "the Problem of Evil" a lot easier. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Problem_of_evil. But Jim has answered that question with free will. It might be an unsatisfactory answer for real life, but it's more than enough for me in a book series that I've repeatedly heard described as "popcorn" or "palette cleansers."
One of the things I really like about reading the DF is Jim addresses what we call touch topics with enough skill and knowledge so as to not make a caricature of anyone's beliefs. That's typically what I see in pop culture. It's annoying whenever I know enough about the subject matter to catch it even if I don't share those beliefs.
On the Antichrist point, there's a bunch of argument over whether there's an antichrist, a bunch of antichrists, or both, so having every starborn be a potential antichrist (and several being more than just potential ones) isn't stretching things too much.
SoftManacles4MagiHackers:
Siriothrax has an older meaning than that. we associate Sirius with the dog star because that was the god Sirius's animal symbol in greek mythology. That god's name goes back further to mean "the scorcher" or glowing, relating to being the brightest star in the sky. Technically, his name is most connected to Lucifer, in both stars and Lightbringer/glowing titles. But I'm seeing similarities in all the dragons' names. perhaps they were created to fulfill Lucifer's original purpose when he fell, or in case he did fall?
Griffyn612:
The suffix for the Dragons isn't just -vax. It's also -thrax, like in Siriothrax. It could be that the true suffix is the shared -ax, which has a meaning as a suffix.
--- Quote ---Suffix
-āx (genitive -ācis); third-declension one-termination suffix
used to form adjectives expressing a tendency or inclination to the action of the root verb; -ish, -y
audeō (“I dare”) > audāx (“bold”)
edō (“I eat”) > edāx (“gluttonous, voracious”)
loquor (“I talk”) > loquāx (“talkative”)
pugnō (“I fight”) > pugnāx (“combative, fond of fighting”)
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As for the names, Ferro is Latin, whereas Pyro and Sirio are Greek. Collectively they could be Light, Fire, and Iron, as others have said.
We know Light, particularly sunlight, can kill some supernatural things. So can Fire, and so can Iron.
So what's the fourth vulnerability for the supernatural world? That might help us identify the nature of the fourth.
I doubt it's faith, hope, or love, as those seem to fall under specific purviews.
Salt, maybe? How do we feel about Salivax/Salithrax or Alavax/Alathrax, keeping it to Latin or Greek?
Silver? Argentivax/Argentithrax or Asimivqx/Asimithrax?
Avernite:
--- Quote from: Griffyn612 on July 07, 2021, 02:30:04 AM ---The suffix for the Dragons isn't just -vax. It's also -thrax, like in Siriothrax. It could be that the true suffix is the shared -ax, which has a meaning as a suffix.
As for the names, Ferro is Latin, whereas Pyro and Sirio are Greek. Collectively they could be Light, Fire, and Iron, as others have said.
We know Light, particularly sunlight, can kill some supernatural things. So can Fire, and so can Iron.
So what's the fourth vulnerability for the supernatural world? That might help us identify the nature of the fourth.
I doubt it's faith, hope, or love, as those seem to fall under specific purviews.
Salt, maybe? How do we feel about Salivax/Salithrax or Alavax/Alathrax, keeping it to Latin or Greek?
Silver? Argentivax/Argentithrax or Asimivqx/Asimithrax?
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(Running) Water also has some anti-magic properties, so Hydrax or Aquax could work.
And Hydrax sounds a lot like Hydra...
Yuillegan:
--- Quote from: SoftManacles4MagiHackers on July 06, 2021, 11:16:41 PM ---Siriothrax has an older meaning than that. we associate Sirius with the dog star because that was the god Sirius's animal symbol in greek mythology. That god's name goes back further to mean "the scorcher" or glowing, relating to being the brightest star in the sky. Technically, his name is most connected to Lucifer, in both stars and Lightbringer/glowing titles. But I'm seeing similarities in all the dragons' names. perhaps they were created to fulfill Lucifer's original purpose when he fell, or in case he did fall?
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That's an interesting idea. The Dragons are just fill-ins for Lucifer. Or perhaps like the Queens, representing different parts of Lucifer (but then why would an Archangel be in parts?). I think your idea works. Which would then suggest that Lucifer was originally responsible for the orderly procession of things - which is what the Dragons are meant to have been doing.
--- Quote from: Griffyn612 on July 07, 2021, 02:30:04 AM ---The suffix for the Dragons isn't just -vax. It's also -thrax, like in Siriothrax. It could be that the true suffix is the shared -ax, which has a meaning as a suffix.
As for the names, Ferro is Latin, whereas Pyro and Sirio are Greek. Collectively they could be Light, Fire, and Iron, as others have said.
We know Light, particularly sunlight, can kill some supernatural things. So can Fire, and so can Iron.
So what's the fourth vulnerability for the supernatural world? That might help us identify the nature of the fourth.
I doubt it's faith, hope, or love, as those seem to fall under specific purviews.
Salt, maybe? How do we feel about Salivax/Salithrax or Alavax/Alathrax, keeping it to Latin or Greek?
Silver? Argentivax/Argentithrax or Asimivqx/Asimithrax?
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Very nice! Yes, upon rereading this I think it might just be the "ax" as the relevant suffix. I might have got a bit too excited earlier.
Salt isn't bad, or silver. But not a lot of uses of both in the series. Fire, Water, Spirit, Metal all seem to be the main ones.
--- Quote from: Avernite on July 11, 2021, 05:24:30 PM ---(Running) Water also has some anti-magic properties, so Hydrax or Aquax could work.
And Hydrax sounds a lot like Hydra...
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This works, as it ties back to the idea of elemental Dragons. But Harry puts the five elements as Fire, Water, Earth, Air, Spirit. The Chinese five elements are Fire, Water, Iron, Earth, Air (also meaning spirit). So it's hard to know how they fit.
Perhaps it is something like this?
Ferro: Iron
Sirio: Light/Spirit/Air
Pyro: Fire
Hydra: Water
Unknown fifth Dragon: Earth
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