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New Dresden Files podcast interview.
Dina:
I still disagree, Vincentric. Mab cannot force Harry to do anything about Demonreach. There is one reason no one thinks Mab has the Eye. It's not that she can control what is in Demonreach. She may, of course, orchestrate plans to force him to choose to use any weapon or prisoner of Demonreach, but she cannot directly order him to do that.
Mira:
--- Quote ---Anything Demonreach has locked up, Harry can set free. This is from the word of Demonreach itself. And the armory is just as subject to Harry's control. There is no effect on his Warden status unless she tries to force him. Harry can refuse her order but there are ... consequences to this that Harry currently does not have the power to evade or avert. He'd have to go back to isolation on the island.
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Perhaps he would, but when he is on the island, he has the power, not her.
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"Demonreach," I said. "If our guest pulls the trigger, take her below and keep her there."
The guardian spirit's vast shadow fell over us even though there was nothing casting it, and Mab's eyes widened.
"Servant," I said. "I don't like that word. I suggest that you consider where you stand and chose a different term.
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Harry could lock her up, but he'd have to be able to bind her first though, which wouldn't be an easy thing.
morriswalters:
It's an interesting question. She made Harry stab himself in the hand in Summer Knight and rewrote his software in Small Favor. And she was in the Well when Harry's soul was out gallivanting. So a better question might be, why would she?
If Merlin built the Well and traveled in time, barring idiocy on his part, Merlin would have thought about this and made provisions. Don't you think?
Arjan:
--- Quote from: morriswalters on December 20, 2020, 09:04:01 AM ---It's an interesting question. She made Harry stab himself in the hand in Summer Knight and rewrote his software in Small Favor. And she was in the Well when Harry's soul was out gallivanting. So a better question might be, why would she?
If Merlin built the Well and traveled in time, barring idiocy on his part, Merlin would have thought about this and made provisions. Don't you think?
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Demonreach makes Harry an even more powerful and effective winter knight and also a more effective warden. Mab and the island came to an understanding about Harry, probably some sort of agreement and I don’t think Mab will mess that up, it won’t serve her purpose. Her words to Lara clearly shows that she thinks Harry’s responsibilities are not a problem for her.
Mab clearly understands the islands importance and in the past helped Harry to fulfill his obligations as the warden.
Mab does horrible things when she thinks it is necessary for her purpose and that includes teaching Harry some lessons but there is always some sort of ratio behind it.
Mira:
--- Quote from: morriswalters on December 20, 2020, 09:04:01 AM ---It's an interesting question. She made Harry stab himself in the hand in Summer Knight and rewrote his software in Small Favor. And she was in the Well when Harry's soul was out gallivanting. So a better question might be, why would she?
If Merlin built the Well and traveled in time, barring idiocy on his part, Merlin would have thought about this and made provisions. Don't you think?
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I think Harry has come a long way since that moment in his office. I think he understands a bit more about power and the limits of it these days. Remember what both Eb and Uriel told him about Mab forcing him to do anything. That doesn't mean that she can't exert an enormous amount of power over him.
--- Quote ---Demonreach makes Harry an even more powerful and effective winter knight and also a more effective warden. Mab and the island came to an understanding about Harry, probably some sort of agreement and I don’t think Mab will mess that up, it won’t serve her purpose. Her words to Lara clearly shows that she thinks Harry’s responsibilities are not a problem for her.
Mab clearly understands the islands importance and in the past helped Harry to fulfill his obligations as the warden.
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Yes, and she also understands that Harry was able to jail a Titian and he is in possession of the Spear of Destiny. Yes, elsewhere she can exert a lot of pressure on him, but on the island? He has the last say, and she also knows that. However that won't stop her from trying, and let us not forget she understands the subtleties of power and how to both exert it and withstand it. It was that subtlety that enabled her to withstand the blunt of the Eye of Baylor, much of her power is indeed psychological.
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