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"Talk To Me..." Had Carlos Already Drank the Kool-Aid?

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morriswalters:
Harry's reasons for keeping the relationship between Thomas and himself secret  has been repeatably gone over in the books.  And the theme again gets raised in Battle Ground. He Who Walks Beside used the relationship to attack Harry through Justine. I'm assuming that Beside has the same or better ability as has Anduriel. I take this from Titania's warning to Harry in Cold Days. Telling Carlos represents an unacceptable level of risk. There is a movie interpretation of this type of ubiquitous surveillance, called The Conversation.

Dina:
I like the idea of the Merlin using Harry as a spy. It makes more sense that what it seems to be happening.
Morriswalters, I agree about Thomas. It's a secret that he wants to keep.
Bad Alias, yes, Harry did not know about the engagement, but that is another reason not to tell Carlos Now about his relationship with Lara. And, as I said, Carlos has to believe that he was with Lara indeed. But, Harry being Harry, I wouldn't have been surprised if he told him about Murphy. It is good he didn't.

KurtinStGeorge:

--- Quote from: Dina on November 06, 2020, 12:34:50 AM ---I like the idea of the Merlin using Harry as a spy. It makes more sense that what it seems to be happening.
Morriswalters, I agree about Thomas. It's a secret that he wants to keep.
Bad Alias, yes, Harry did not know about the engagement, but that is another reason not to tell Carlos Now about his relationship with Lara. And, as I said, Carlos has to believe that he was with Lara indeed. But, Harry being Harry, I wouldn't have been surprised if he told him about Murphy. It is good he didn't.

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If the Merlin was kicking Harry out for any rational reason beyond not trusting him, I don't think it would be so Harry could act as a spy.  A spy who isn't reporting back to you isn't any good to you at all.  However, I could see the Merlin kicking Harry out of the White Council so he could act as a free agent.  Any reports that Harry makes to anyone in the White Council; besides Ebenezer, risks being intercepted by a White Council traitor.  Of course, this idea assumes the Merlin suspects there is another traitor within the Council.  Harry on his own cannot be given orders from the Council that send him in the wrong direction or simply waste his time from doing what is most needed. 

Snark Knight:

--- Quote from: morriswalters on November 05, 2020, 11:26:05 PM ---Harry's reasons for keeping the relationship between Thomas and himself secret  has been repeatably gone over in the books.

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Plus, if Carlos reports that officially, it could screw Ebenezar with other Council members who know Harry is his grandson.

TheCuriousFan:

--- Quote from: Mira on November 03, 2020, 10:14:59 PM ---You saw how that went down with Eb..  If Harry hadn't preplanned, he'd be dead.  I doubt if it would have gone down any better with Carlos.  Yes, telling him that Thomas was is brother might explain some things, but it could also just confirm to Carlos that Harry was totally under the White Court influence..

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It would have been an uncomfortable conversation but far less violent if Harry told Ebenezar before working him up into a rage. Telling Carlos about Thomas would be an improvement over Harry's canon approach of clamming up when asked about his sex life, working with Lara and seemingly sneaking off to have sex with her and then refusing to give answers again when asked about that.

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