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"Talk To Me..." Had Carlos Already Drank the Kool-Aid?
toodeep:
What I really want is another short story, "Field Trip," where Harry takes a bunch of people who need to know what is on the line to the outer gates - Fix is the most important to take, probably Butters to be a communicator, and Carlos out of hope of repairing the relationship. Maybe Billy just because he deserves the trust. Maybe Lara if she isn't clued in, though I suspect she is and bringing her along would weaken the outreach to Carlos.
Such a trip isn't really letting any secret out of the bag, since all the power players know it. And it gives a reason for Harry to be a monster and for others to help him. Fix really needs to know that while there are times that Winter and Summer are enemies, that there are also times they are allies for a good reason. And I think that if Carlos can see Harry getting along with the Summer Knight, see a reason for Harry to be helping Mab, and see a knight of the cross along vouching for Harry, that might go a long way to bringing Carlos back in the fold.
Regenbogen:
This would be a good idea. Some people really need to know what is at stake.
Mira:
--- Quote ---What I really want is another short story, "Field Trip," where Harry takes a bunch of people who need to know what is on the line to the outer gates - Fix is the most important to take, probably Butters to be a communicator, and Carlos out of hope of repairing the relationship. Maybe Billy just because he deserves the trust. Maybe Lara if she isn't clued in, though I suspect she is and bringing her along would weaken the outreach to Carlos.
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I don't know if that is possible, it was a big deal when Mother Summer took Harry to the Gates. Rashid said it was unusual for someone as young as Harry to manage the trip, even with Mother Summer as a guide, and that he must take after his mother. Maybe Harry could do it, but not sure if he has that much pull yet. Also something clear when Harry visited, until he saw them in person he thought that were a metaphor and not real.
--- Quote ---Such a trip isn't really letting any secret out of the bag, since all the power players know it. And it gives a reason for Harry to be a monster and for others to help him. Fix really needs to know that while there are times that Winter and Summer are enemies, that there are also times they are allies for a good reason. And I think that if Carlos can see Harry getting along with the Summer Knight, see a reason for Harry to be helping Mab, and see a knight of the cross along vouching for Harry, that might go a long way to bringing Carlos back in the fold.
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Well, Harry did tell him that he'd feel foolish for believing what he believes, but I think it will take a while. Maybe if Harry can save Chandler?
Dina:
Yes, that is all very, very true but, again, Harry has not done anything to show that he has changed. There is no trail of bodies that Harry left in Mab's name. He still frequented Thomas, but he did that before. He did not see Lara (I am talking about the beginning of PT). He still frequents the Knights. He frequents Murphy more than before. Nothing in his behavior says "he became dark side". So yes, I fully understand being wary and cautious. Tracking spell? Voting him out the Council? Not so much.
Arjan:
--- Quote from: Dina on November 18, 2020, 05:08:18 PM ---Yes, that is all very, very true but, again, Harry has not done anything to show that he has changed. There is no trail of bodies that Harry left in Mab's name. He still frequented Thomas, but he did that before. He did not see Lara (I am talking about the beginning of PT). He still frequents the Knights. He frequents Murphy more than before. Nothing in his behavior says "he became dark side". So yes, I fully understand being wary and cautious. Tracking spell? Voting him out the Council? Not so much.
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Out of sight. That was why his bodyguard detail was a trap, he could not go to Edinburgh to talk to people. He did not maintain his contacts in the white council so any rumor about him became more believable.
Then he was secretive. All wizards are secretive but if there is suspicion it will only make it worse. And then he boinked with Lara. Big red flag. Especially with Carlos who soul gazed Lara in white night and knows what a monster she is.
And as usual when everything goes to hell he is away doing personal stuff. We saw Ebenezer’s reaction to that. With Lara.
His winter knight strength is also a red flag. Monsters are physically strong, not wizards.
But the real decision came at the end after he took the eye of Balor obviously because he did not trust the white council with it.
Oh and toot scared the hell out of them too. He has a whole army now.
Mab is not that impressed by the white council now.
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