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When did LtW join the White Council?
SerScot:
Do we see any other Native American wizards on the White Council? I wonder when the White Council sought to reach out to Native Wizards? Did they have contact with the Americas before major European colonization was under way or were they surprised to discover other users of Human Magic in the Americas?
Let’s go further, if the WC was established during the Roman Empire how did it it assert control over non-Roman human magic users? Was it conquest? Were Wardens out slaughtering Chinese, Indian, Native American, and Sub-saharan African wizards while Augustus ruled in Rome?
I’m now very curious about how the WC came to assert political control over the Human use of magic and why non-European “wizards” just accepted their hegemony?
Mira:
--- Quote from: SerScot on October 29, 2020, 12:04:36 PM ---Do we see any other Native American wizards on the White Council? I wonder when the White Council sought to reach out to Native Wizards? Did they have contact with the Americas before major European colonization was under way or were they surprised to discover other users of Human Magic in the Americas?
Let’s go further, if the WC was established during the Roman Empire how it it assert control over non-Roman human magic users? Was it conquest? Were Wardens out slaughtering Chinese, Indian, Native American, and Sub-saharan African wizards while Augustus ruled in Rome?
I’m now very curious about how the WC came to assert political control over the Human use of magic and why non-European “wizards” just accepted their hegemony?
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I wonder if it happened sometime during the Middle Ages? Maybe during the plague? Perhaps a little earlier in the time of Merlin. There was so much chaos and fear during those times and for lack of a better word "witch hunts," and vanilla humans were not playing nice with those suspected. Perhaps it was at that time that the wizards came together and decided they had to set down some agreed rules, policing themselves in the name of survival.
SerScot:
--- Quote from: Mira on October 29, 2020, 12:30:15 PM ---I wonder if it happened sometime during the Middle Ages? Maybe during the plague? Perhaps a little earlier in the time of Merlin. There was so much chaos and fear during those times and for lack of a better word "witch hunts," and vanilla humans were not playing nice with those suspected. Perhaps it was at that time that the wizards came together and decided they had to set down some agreed rules, policing themselves in the name of survival.
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But it wouldn’t have been a global movement. Magic use, even in our world, wasn’t always demonized. As such why would “wizards” from cultures that didn’t oppress magic users join an organization that wants to push magic use underground?
Mira:
--- Quote from: SerScot on October 29, 2020, 01:02:47 PM ---But it wouldn’t have been a global movement. Magic use, even in our world, wasn’t always demonized. As such why would “wizards” from cultures that didn’t oppress magic users join an organization that wants to push magic use underground?
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Actually I think it can be seen as a global movement, because human nature doesn't change from one part of the world to another. Cultures rise and fall and have more in common than you think. Wizards also would have a way to communicate with one another that the culture they rose from lacked. The Council meant more power, it meant protection for them as a group, it is natural that they'd go global.
SerScot:
--- Quote from: Mira on October 29, 2020, 01:48:24 PM ---Actually I think it can be seen as a global movement, because human nature doesn't change from one part of the world to another. Cultures rise and fall and have more in common than you think. Wizards also would have a way to communicate with one another that the culture they rose from lacked. The Council meant more power, it meant protection for them as a group, it is natural that they'd go global.
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No.
If “wizards have a way to communicate with one anothet that individual cultures lack” why are wizards in the current day having trouble getting to talented kids before they abuse their power? The two ideas do not gel. The WC had to start at some point. It had to start in some place and at some time. It could not have been some collective action from all human magic users on Earth because, we know, there is no way to contact every human magic user on Earth in the present day Dresdenverse.
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