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Mac's True Nature (spoilers for BG)
Wicked Woodpecker of West:
--- Quote ---I take that to mean, Mac isn't afraid to stand at the door with his shotgun to protect those people. However he doesn't want to commit to using the Placard.. Theory, putting his blood on the Placard commits him to sacrificing himself to save those people just like the Man on the Cross. That is taking a side, one he had turned his back on long ago and got kicked out of Heaven for. Harry clearly wants him to use the Placard, and now wants to know who he really is and tries to look at him with his sight. Mac stops him, gentally says "don't hurt yourself.." Doesn't say what he really is either.
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I think there's easier explanation for Mac's anxiety and dismay than notion that in some way using Placard breaks his neutrality (because it does not at least by letter by Accords) - simply I mean this is Relic of celestial nature, with power of Logos Incarnated behind it, ergo something Mac left long ago - and it's hard to say what's his current position on this choice.
I think it's sort of guilt, regret, and such things.
Dina:
More or less along the lines of what I was saying.
Mira:
--- Quote from: Wicked Woodpecker of West on November 06, 2020, 04:40:16 PM ---I think there's easier explanation for Mac's anxiety and dismay than notion that in some way using Placard breaks his neutrality (because it does not at least by letter by Accords) - simply I mean this is Relic of celestial nature, with power of Logos Incarnated behind it, ergo something Mac left long ago - and it's hard to say what's his current position on this choice.
I think it's sort of guilt, regret, and such things.
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Yes, I think that may be more to the point than his neutrality or taking sides. I don't think Mac cares one way or the other if someone recognizes what he is, Vadderung seems to know, the Outsiders called him by name. Seeing the Placard and committing to what it stands for by smearing his blood on it, revisits a choice he made long ago, it will be interesting to see if this is a turning point and we see Mac evolving. Kind of like the shadow of Lasciel becoming Lash, yes, partly because of Harry, not unlike Mac, but a couple of more subtle personal things which I think were the real moments that began to change her. The first one was after Harry burned his hand so severely and Butters gave him a guitar to learn to play as physical therapy. Lasciel helped him and made a sad little comment with a hint of regret, she hadn't been able to make music in a very, very, long time. The second happened in Proven Guilty I believe, after he got back with Molly, Charity et all, they took refuge with Father Forthill. Harry wanders into the church proper and Lasciel now more Lash than Lasciel, says:
--- Quote ---Lasciel's voide came to me, very quietly, and sounded odd. Sad. It is beautiful here.
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Lasciel hadn't been reminded in a long long time what it was she gave up when she followed Lucifer, and she hadn't regretted her choice.. But I believe the two incidences began to make her maybe rethink a bit. I think when he put that blood on the Placard, Mac may not have regretted his choice all these years, but he may begin to rethink.
Griffyn612:
Imma put this here...
--- Quote from: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watcher_(angel) ---In the Books of Enoch, the first Book of Enoch devotes much of its attention to the fall of the watchers. The Second Book of Enoch addresses the watchers (Gk. egrḗgoroi) who are in fifth heaven where the fall took place. The Third Book of Enoch gives attention to the unfallen watchers.[10]
The use of the term "watchers" is common in the Book of Enoch. The Book of the Watchers (1 Enoch 6–36) occurs in the Aramaic fragments with the phrase irin we-qadishin, "Watchers and Holy Ones", a reference to Aramaic Daniel.[11] The Aramaic irin "watchers" is rendered as "angel" (Greek angelos, Coptic malah) in the Greek and Ethiopian translations, although the usual Aramaic term for angel malakha does not occur in Aramaic Enoch.[12]
Some[who?] have attempted to date this section of 1 Enoch to around the 2nd–1st century BC and they believe this book is based on one interpretation of the Sons of God passage in Genesis 6, according to which angels mated with human females, giving rise to a race of hybrids known as the Nephilim. The term irin is primarily applied to disobedient watchers who numbered a total of 200, and of whom their leaders are named, but equally Aramaic iri ("watcher" singular) is also applied to the obedient archangels who chain them, such as Raphael (1 Enoch 22:6).
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Imma see myself out... 8)
Wicked Woodpecker of West:
The main argument against it is - I think fact that Mab lists Rapahel as one of active archangels.
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