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Mac's True Nature (spoilers for BG)
Griffyn612:
There are clue going either way. Sure, Lord Raith knew summoning spells for Behind. Sure, the appearance of the white court demon's mirror world was a place of bones, which a similar ascetic to that of the landscape just outside the Gates, where there mountains of bones.
But there's also the fact that Mab is willing to try to liaison with the Wamps. Surely with all the resources at her and everyone else's disposal, they'd know of a fundamental connection between the Wamps and the Outsiders. And in their natural form (as seen in the mirror), Wamp demons are beings of *light*. They glow, head to toe. That seems to go against the Outsider all-darkness-no-light ascetic of Empty Night.
Mira:
--- Quote from: Griffyn612 on November 16, 2020, 05:01:58 PM ---There are clue going either way. Sure, Lord Raith knew summoning spells for Behind. Sure, the appearance of the white court demon's mirror world was a place of bones, which a similar ascetic to that of the landscape just outside the Gates, where there mountains of bones.
But there's also the fact that Mab is willing to try to liaison with the Wamps. Surely with all the resources at her and everyone else's disposal, they'd know of a fundamental connection between the Wamps and the Outsiders. And in their natural form (as seen in the mirror), Wamp demons are beings of *light*. They glow, head to toe. That seems to go against the Outsider all-darkness-no-light ascetic of Empty Night.
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Is that a WOJ? Or did I miss something in the books or short stories? Because I don't reading that, so which story is it from? Harry describes the inside of Lord Raith as exactly what "empty night" is, so did Margaret wipe out his Hunger Demon, that is why he cannot feed, leave nothing? But that would seemingly contradict what Lara said about like Thomas, Lord Raith's Hunger Demon was consuming him.
Griffyn612:
--- Quote from: Mira on November 16, 2020, 05:14:11 PM ---Is that a WOJ? Or did I miss something in the books or short stories? Because I don't reading that, so which story is it from? Harry describes the inside of Lord Raith as exactly what "empty night" is, so did Margaret wipe out his Hunger Demon, that is why he cannot feed, leave nothing? But that would seemingly contradict what Lara said about like Thomas, Lord Raith's Hunger Demon was consuming him.
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You're describing the magical feeling that Harry got when his magic hit the void around Lord Raith. But that's been pretty well established, between Eb's comments and WoJ, to be a unique protection situation for Lord Raith.
The things I'm describing, with the demon being a creature of light, is from the soulgaze with Thomas. We see Thomas's demon in the mirror, and it's described as having glowing eyes and skin. Just like we see of their hosts when they tap their power.
Mira:
--- Quote from: Griffyn612 on November 16, 2020, 05:24:03 PM ---You're describing the magical feeling that Harry got when his magic hit the void around Lord Raith. But that's been pretty well established, between Eb's comments and WoJ, to be a unique protection situation for Lord Raith.
The things I'm describing, with the demon being a creature of light, is from the soulgaze with Thomas. We see Thomas's demon in the mirror, and it's described as having glowing eyes and skin. Just like we see of their hosts when they tap their power.
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Yes, but given that Harry is a star born, the feeling that he describes from Lord Raith becomes more significant, because one of the things Harry manages to "feel," for lack of a better term is possession of others by Nemesis/Outsiders.
Harry is also looking at Thomas and his struggle with the Hunger Demon though a soul gaze which leans more towards the metaphorical than actual vision. In that same vision the Thomas struggling through the mirror with the demon is, his face is plain, he looks nearsighted, his expression strained with pain, shoulders and back tight with tension.
Bad Alias:
--- Quote from: Wicked Woodpecker of West on November 14, 2020, 12:56:55 AM ---I'm quite sure he was raised Baptist.
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Baptists are often classified as fundamentalists, so that's certainly possible. I'm not, nor was I, saying he wasn't Baptist. Just saying what I recall hearing.
--- Quote from: Wicked Woodpecker of West on November 14, 2020, 12:56:55 AM ---OK... but then how it worked compared to what you pointed out yourself about beings "not changing their natures".
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I thought you brought that up? Doesn't matter. Their nature never changed. Just everyone's perception of it. Also, that WoJ does seem to conflict with a lot of what he and/or the books have said. So it could just be an inconsistency.
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