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Mac's True Nature (spoilers for BG)

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Avernite:

--- Quote from: Mira on October 31, 2020, 12:41:09 PM ---True, but one would think more so in this case..  The Blood of Christ takes center stage from the Last Supper through to the Crucifixion, those events are the origins of the artifacts.
But that was his pledge when he smeared his blood on the Placard wasn't it?  We still don't know what if anything the Placard does.  Harry said, now if the bad guys wanted in they'd have to go through Mac.  Well, wasn't that the case before he pulled out the Placard?  Did it make the bar door a super threshold?  It never sent out power vibes like the Spear did.  When Murphy asked Harry what it was, he said it was the sign above Christ's head on the Cross, and that it stood for intercession.  Looked that word up and it had a lot to do with asking God or some deity for aid.  Which for Mac, as an exiled angel playing strictly neutral might not be that easy, unless at last he has decided to take a stand and a side for humanity's sake.

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Of course if we just take not intercession, but the verb intercede, it just says 'intervene on behalf of another.' So I'm more on the following argument:

By taking up the placard, Mac is intervening on behalf of the people inside his bar. He intercedes between whatever may come at them and his guests. Hence, he's not taking a side, he's focusing any outside threat on him, whatever he really is, which is more powerful than just pretending to be a guy with a shotgun.

Likewise, in the crucifixion, TWC placed Himself between whatever ailed them (possibly the sins of mankind) and mankind or maybe just between those ills and the Jewish people (what with the inscription, at least in our world, mentioning the Jews). But in that case, through the additional artifacts used, it probably worked more permanently (or maybe TWC is just hiding deep in the NeverNever so that noone can break that intercession).

Telynn:
So it seems to me we have two options on how the placard works.  Passive, which would mean that everyone in the bar is safe as long as Mac is alive.  The protection is a 'threshold' sort of protection.  Or non-passive which would mean that Mac himself has pledged to fight for and protect anyone seeking sanctuary in the bar.  Either way Mac is putting himself on the line and as is said, taking a side.

Dina:
I think it's passive, mainly because Jesus did not attack the Romans  :D

Griffyn612:

--- Quote from: Telynn on November 01, 2020, 06:02:01 PM ---So it seems to me we have two options on how the placard works.  Passive, which would mean that everyone in the bar is safe as long as Mac is alive.  The protection is a 'threshold' sort of protection.  Or non-passive which would mean that Mac himself has pledged to fight for and protect anyone seeking sanctuary in the bar.  Either way Mac is putting himself on the line and as is said, taking a side.

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I'll agree with everything except for taking a side.  The only side he's taking is by upholding the accords which he's already agreed to.  The faction attacking Chicago were in violation of the accords.  He is agreeing to uphold his signing of them. 

To me that's not taking a side, but if that's not others interpret it, okay.

Mira:

--- Quote from: Griffyn612 on November 01, 2020, 09:57:41 PM ---I'll agree with everything except for taking a side.  The only side he's taking is by upholding the accords which he's already agreed to.  The faction attacking Chicago were in violation of the accords.  He is agreeing to uphold his signing of them. 

To me that's not taking a side, but if that's not others interpret it, okay.

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Wasn't he already doing that when Harry brought in the Placard.  But hold it a minute, Mac's Bar is neutral territory, different factions meet there from time to time.  Did Mac ever sign the Accords? If he had, he cannot reside over neutral territory, signing the Accords is taking a side. 

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