The Dresden Files > DF Spoilers
Poor Harry - Jim you cruel man. Lol
Dina:
You can have your soul outside your body and that does not mean you are dead. You are only dead when you go to the light or whatever metaphor you want to use.So, it's 2 things. His body was alive and his soul was still around.
Wicked Woodpecker of West:
--- Quote ---You can have your soul outside your body and that does not mean you are dead. You are only dead when you go to the light or whatever metaphor you want to use.So, it's 2 things. His body was alive and his soul was still around.
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Well but then Corpsetaker is described as pushed through boundary - (i sort of like idea she was truly dead - not real Corpsetaker and it was just very very powerful ghost just remain of Dresden actions without consideration what killing of such powerful body-hopping wizard can do) but southbound train in the end seems to be proof she was real deal - and yet her soul lingered.
And Uriel claim souls can stay around - but they will with time lost spiritual protection and turn into mad... dunno what really I mean soul cannot be destroyed according to WOJ - it always returns ultimately to its source - but I'm not sure what soul whose ghost body was reduced to nothing can do...
Mira:
--- Quote ---Mab states that if Dresden soul would not return, she would lost a knight and Demonreach its guardian. So I doubt she would keep Dresden's body alive as handy empty soul for some Corpsetaker 2.0. Especially as her Winter Knight deal was with Dresden as a human being, not just mortal shell.
But she knew his soul is running around in spirit-body.
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Yes, that was the argument she had with Uriel, she could have brought Harry back quite quickly I think, but Uriel insisted that Harry be taught a lesson about the soul. It was a huge risk. However it didn't leave Harry's body vulnerable to the Corpstaker, because his body wasn't there when he,Mort, and Molly were fighting her. Also consider where Harry's body was at and who was looking after it, very doubtful that the Corpstaker would have been successful.
--- Quote ---Seems to be. But I'd assume if body is recoverable - soul should stay around. With Dresden being wizard and necromancer to big, that was bit different, but even then Mab was angry at Uriel for letting Dresden roam around so... it seems it was somehow faciliated by Archangel.
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Yeah, I don't think the comparison with the Beckett girl works. True, she is in a coma, Harry was in a coma, but there it ends I think. While she still lives her soul is very much with her, in Harry's case an archangel intervened so his soul would wander, putting it in real danger.
Arjan:
--- Quote from: Wicked Woodpecker of West on November 12, 2020, 04:30:39 PM ---Well but then Corpsetaker is described as pushed through boundary - (i sort of like idea she was truly dead - not real Corpsetaker and it was just very very powerful ghost just remain of Dresden actions without
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She was described as pushed through the boundary just like Harry
--- Quote ---consideration what killing of such powerful body-hopping wizard can do) but southbound train in the end seems to be proof she was real deal - and yet her soul lingered.
And Uriel claim souls can stay around - but they will with time lost spiritual protection and turn into mad... dunno what really I mean soul cannot be destroyed according to WOJ - it always returns ultimately to its source - but I'm not sure what soul whose ghost body was reduced to nothing can do...
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I think you have to choose in some way to stay around. A powerful and well educated necromancier knows about the in and outs so she or he can prepare her return. Corpstaker most probably tried a trick her master already used successfully.
But maybe someone can also stay around to protect their descendants. Ancestor worship must be good for something.
Wicked Woodpecker of West:
--- Quote ---She was described as pushed through the boundary just like Harry
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Was she? There was no "just like" comparison in quote about her you linked.
--- Quote ---But maybe someone can also stay around to protect their descendants. Ancestor worship must be good for something.
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Well yes Sir Stuart seems to be real soul considering Uriel's proposition in finale.
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