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I'm A Bit Confused... Nemesis or Outsider or Both???
Mira:
--- Quote from: morriswalters on October 22, 2020, 08:26:00 PM ---Jim wants you confused. Lea and Maeve are both infected by Proven Guilty. So two people can be hag ridden at the same time. But the question is by what?
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Yeah, they call me Nemesis, my name is HeWhoWalksBesides.. WTF?? Not to mention Lea and Maeve both got infected because they handled a cootie ridden Knife, but seemingly not possessed by an Outsider!
Telynn:
--- Quote from: Mira on October 22, 2020, 09:34:35 PM ---Yeah, they call me Nemesis, my name is HeWhoWalksBesides.. WTF?? Not to mention Lea and Maeve both got infected because they handled a cootie ridden Knife, but seemingly not possessed by an Outsider!
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That's my big question. Up until the Justine thing I thought of this being infected as just your thoughts being bent a certain way. But Justine is straight up possessed. For instance I don't think Maeve ever talked as the Outsider, she talked like her thinking was twisted, but she still thought of herself as Maeve. Justine was talking as a different person. It's confusing.
forumghost:
--- Quote from: Mira on October 22, 2020, 09:34:35 PM ---Yeah, they call me Nemesis, my name is HeWhoWalksBesides.. WTF?? Not to mention Lea and Maeve both got infected because they handled a cootie ridden Knife, but seemingly not possessed by an Outsider!
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I mean I'm not to sure about that. Remember Lea in Proven Guilty?
--- Quote ---She gritted her teeth and said, "I cannot yet be trusted. It is not time. I would not be able to fulfill my promise to your mother, should you free me now. You must leave."
"Trusted?" I asked.
"No time," she said, voice strained again. "I cannot long keep it from taking hold of..." She shuddered and lowered her head. She lifted her face to me a few seconds later, and the madness had returned to her eyes. "Wait," she rasped. "I have reconsidered. Free me."
I traded a look with Thomas, and we both took a cautious step backward.
Lea's face twisted up with rage and she let out a howl that shook icicles from their positions. "Release me!"
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Looking back, that sure seems like what happened with Cat Sith and Justine when HWWBS Assumed Direct Control™
morriswalters:
It's actually worse. In Cold Days you have , Maeve, Cat Sith and Justine now that I think about it. Cat Sith is both influenced early and then taken over completely late. And Sharkface is all over the place.
I no longer trust that Jim actually knows how it works.
Dina:
--- Quote from: morriswalters on October 22, 2020, 11:15:41 PM ---It's actually worse. In Cold Days you have , Maeve, Cat Sith and Justine now that I think about it. Cat Sith is both influenced early and then taken over completely late. And Sharkface is all over the place.
I no longer trust that Jim actually knows how it works.
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That is a little too much, only because we don't know how it works...yet, it does not mean that he does not know.
Thing is, with Cat Sith, Maeve, etc it seemed that if you were nemfected it was like a sickness that slowly takes you until you are beyond help and you can't be back. But Justine has been infected for years and Harry thinks there is a chance to save her. I don't know, perhaps is because he thinks is a walker possessing her and if he vanquishes it, it will be completely gone and she will be free. But I don't know.
I was thinking something. Perhaps it would be easier to fight Nemesis if at least the walkers were defeated and for that it would be useful to have not only an starborn but more. Now, I don't think Drakul will be easy to convince ( :P) but perhaps Harry could manage to force Listen to work with him. Of course, if Elaine is an starborn too that would be very convenient. I don't see how that can be possible, but apparently there is a WoJ about it. There may be other starborns around but what I was thinking is that perhaps there is an starborn in Demonreach. And Harry could negotiate with him/her.
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