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I'm A Bit Confused... Nemesis or Outsider or Both???

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forumghost:

--- Quote from: Mira on October 25, 2020, 03:57:46 AM ---Long term planning, if you want to plant an effective mole in a tight and dangerous organization. You do it slowly with someone nonthreatening, gain trust, love and feeding the son of the head of the House is perfect positioning.  It took years to achieve that, in the end no one suspected her,not Lara, no one.  It wasn't until he had ten minutes to think did Harry, tired as he was, figured it out.  If he hadn't Nemesis would have successfully penetrated the defenses of Demonreach.  Long term planning.

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Except that that requires Nemesis somehow know both that Lara was going to supplant her father, AND that Thomas would somehow force himself to stop feeding from Justine despite it being impossible, (giving her the protection that makes her useful to Lara) years in advance.

Like, if the Walkers were that prescient, Harry wouldn't keep tripping them up.

Dina:
What I don't understand is, is Justine going to be weakened by the hunger? (I mean, while the baby is inside Justine) or not? Perhaps the infection gave her resistance to hunger.

Wicked Woodpecker of West:
Hard to say. Nemesis infection seems to change nature of beings though.

Griffyn612:

--- Quote from: Dina on October 25, 2020, 05:17:56 AM ---What I don't understand is, is Justine going to be weakened by the hunger? (I mean, while the baby is inside Justine) or not? Perhaps the infection gave her resistance to hunger.

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Was it said somewhere that most mortal women don't survive the birthing, or that it's hard for them?  I mean, the demon doesn't kick in until the Wamp kids hit puberty, right?  I'd imagine it's not trying to feed until they're older.  But I can't recall if something was said about that.

Arjan:

--- Quote from: Griffyn612 on October 25, 2020, 03:40:01 AM ---We might find out eventually, but it seems like an odd choice to me.  Justine was a young girl dating the outcast son of the White Court King.  Lord Raith was clearly willing to use Outsiders, as he trained Madge to summon Behind.  I don't see the value in infecting Justine at that time.

As the book said, her getting infected when Justine got close to the leader of the White Court makes more sense to me.
That analogy would have to go with... Amanda Beckitt.
Beside would be a lot like Agent Smith, but I doubt Beside is as powerful as Smith.  Maybe Smith from the first movie, where he's limited to one host.  The mass host thing just seems wrong to me.

But yeah, a Starborn has built in protection against the Outsiders, which would be like having protection from his ports being manipulated.  His ability to control them or have power over them, which I think was mentioned by Lash, would be that his outbound ports are open to send power at them, and likewise they can't close their own inbound ports against him.
Yeah, I think Mab would have preferred Beside be trapped, but not in Lea. She's too important.

It does make me wonder if Mab's threat to get vengeance on everyone involved would include Harry, if his attack on the Winter Spring played a role in Beside escaping and infecting Maeve.

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Not at all because infecting Maeve and Aurora must have been the first thing Nemesis did after infecting Lea in Grave Peril. No reason to wait and risk the whole operation.

After that Nemesis tried to keep its presence in winter hidden but Lea became aware and started to resist. That happened somewhere before dead beat.

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