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MURPHYS [BG Spoilers]
Mira:
--- Quote from: Arjan on October 30, 2020, 04:32:51 PM ---But that is not what the god Hades tells Harry in Skin Game. He used to get more souls but now he only get specific ones. Just like Vadderung.
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Yeah, well, I am just going by classic Greek and Roman Mythology. But it still tracks with what Hades said, even if he doesn't get as many souls as he used to, he still judges them and I imagine they get what they deserve whether they go to the place where he rewards them or to the place where they are punished.
--- Quote ---I think the thing that saddened me the most after her death, of course, was that in my mind she was always meant to take up Amoracchius, the sword of love. I mean, she was Dresden's love, she was a martial artist trained in swords, and she was a Catholic. The only reason she didn't was because she was a Chicago police Lieutenant, but once she lost that job there was nothing in her way.
She would have made a great Knight of the Cross.
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No, she had that choice, to be a Holy Knight and she refused it. For a couple of reasons, first one being she didn't like being a sock puppet for an angel. That happened at C.I. when she wielded the Sword of Faith, and if you remember Butters was more or less taken over by an angel a lot of the time during Battle Ground. She was a short term Holy Knight. She also had her own ideas of what justice is and what should happen to Denarians, which runs totally contrary to the rules governing the Swords. That is how she broke the Sword of Faith.
Arjan:
--- Quote from: Mira on October 30, 2020, 04:53:31 PM ---Yeah, well, I am just going by classic Greek and Roman Mythology. But it still tracks with what Hades said, even if he doesn't get as many souls as he used to, he still judges them and I imagine they get what they deserve whether they go to the place where he rewards them or to the place where they are punished.
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That is fine but the old stories are not completely reliable in the dresdenverse as is stated more than once. If directly contradicted by a reliable source I take that as more important.
So vakyries are not virgins and there are more than one realms of the dead governed by different gods .
Mira:
--- Quote from: Arjan on October 30, 2020, 05:14:14 PM ---That is fine but the old stories are not completely reliable in the dresdenverse as is stated more than once. If directly contradicted by a reliable source I take that as more important.
So vakyries are not virgins and there are more than one realms of the dead governed by different gods .
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But the point is, Hades isn't just about punishment, it can be about reward as well. Hades said nothing to contradict that, he only said they get fewer souls than they used to get. He also added if Nic thought there would be less punishment in his realm for his daughter, he was very mistaken.
morriswalters:
--- Quote from: Mira on October 30, 2020, 04:53:31 PM ---No, she had that choice, to be a Holy Knight and she refused it. For a couple of reasons, first one being she didn't like being a sock puppet for an angel. That happened at C.I. when she wielded the Sword of Faith, and if you remember Butters was more or less taken over by an angel a lot of the time during Battle Ground. She was a short term Holy Knight. She also had her own ideas of what justice is and what should happen to Denarians, which runs totally contrary to the rules governing the Swords. That is how she broke the Sword of Faith.
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It was a story choice. If Murphy didn't get anything it was because Jim didn't want her to as a character. And this is true for every female character in the story. It's a shame really. You knew at the outset when they had sex that she was doomed. I would guess Mab is as well.
It could have well been written another way. She could have went to heaven. Which given her Catholicism would seemed to have been a better choice. Or she could have joined the Librarians in DC. He wanted her dead and out of the way for this arc with Lara.
Arjan:
--- Quote from: Mira on October 30, 2020, 05:46:43 PM ---But the point is, Hades isn't just about punishment, it can be about reward as well. Hades said nothing to contradict that, he only said they get fewer souls than they used to get. He also added if Nic thought there would be less punishment in his realm for his daughter, he was very mistaken.
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Not my point. My point was about Murphy staying with Vadderung for eternity. :)
Nicodemus was not mistaken, he lied.
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