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Who really killed ... BG spoilers!!!!
Arjan:
--- Quote from: The_Sibelis on October 16, 2020, 10:30:23 AM ---Fu#$, Fu#$, Fu#$!? Ok so I had a horrible no good probably right idea.. someone on the WC is a denarian.. and they caused the misfire to get Harry to outright murder someone with magic. That's the big set up for kicking him out of the council, they had to use some jank turtle neck excuse because Harry was stopped from killing Rudolph... But considering they were keeping tabs on Harry's actions I just smell a plot against the repub-... Er, against Harry. It wasn't about hurting Harry, it was about what it would make him do.. we already know the fallen out master manipulators, from them causing Harry's suicide... I see this as the exact same sort of scheme. Which makes the arrival of the KotC have all that much more meaning.. someone set Harry up to lose control..
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Probably Namshiel. He wants to succeed where Anduriel failed. To corrupt Harry and then destroy him.
TrueMonk:
My guess would be that the mantle of the winter knight is also at its weakest at mid summer. Why would it be different that the queen's in this way?
The the knight interference also points to the denarians in some way.
Killing a mortal is of course quite a bit further than what Morgan did (pushing him in his apartment), but things are also more desperate now. Could it be the Merlin?
Arjan:
--- Quote from: TrueMonk on October 16, 2020, 10:51:41 AM ---My guess would be that the mantle of the winter knight is also at its weakest at mid summer. Why would it be different that the queen's in this way?
The the knight interference also points to the denarians in some way.
Killing a mortal is of course quite a bit further than what Morgan did (pushing him in his apartment), but things are also more desperate now. Could it be the Merlin?
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No, this was different. Was especially about moral corruption. I think the knights would have tried to stop him if he tried to kill him with his bare hands and the Merlin had no reason to belief Harry would use magic to kill him. Without the use of magic to kill Rudolf the white council would not have a case. It would have been a waste of time.
Besides I do not think the Merlin knows how important Murphy was for Harry.
TrueMonk:
That is a good point, I guess it is back to Marcone/Namshiel. He definately knows how important Murph is to him and their history with Rudolph.
Mira:
--- Quote from: Dina on October 16, 2020, 06:25:29 AM ---To be honest, I had been thinking if it's not the opposite way. If you are a decent person, it will be easy to resist the urge of harm someone that the urge of painting a tableau or fixing a car. But if you are painting not because you sincerely want it but because the mantle gives you the sudden desire to do it, aren't you losing some of your free will anyway? And almost without realizing it?
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That is a very good point, and it is why weak willed Knights become monsters. Remember back
to Cold Days, every time Harry was attracted to a pretty girl, the mantle was screaming for him to jump her. It wasn't just mental it was physical as well, Harry had a horrible time with it until he found that physical exercise tamps it down somewhat.
--- Quote ---No, this was different. Was especially about moral corruption. I think the knights would have tried to stop him if he tried to kill him with his bare hands and the Merlin had no reason to belief Harry would use magic to kill him. Without the use of magic to kill Rudolf the white council would not have a case. It would have been a waste of time.
Besides I do not think the Merlin knows how important Murphy was for Harry.
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I agree, and with the exception of Namshiel/Marcone there were no Denarians mentioned anyway. And for once oddly the Knights of the Cross and a Denarian were fighting on the same side, though I doubt that that Butters or Sanya were aware of it.
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