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Who really killed ... BG spoilers!!!!
Dina:
I don't think anyone (or most anyone) speaking of muscle memory actually think the muscle has the capacity of having memory. It's just a way of naming an effect, an idiom if you want. But, as others said, the effect exist and it has been quite studied. I remember an episode of House about a man with amnesia. House irritated him (as always) and in the middle of the heat he convinces him to sign a piece of paper. The man did it, because in his angry state he did not remember that he did not remember his name. He did his signature as he has done thousands of times in his life. And House stated that the memory for mechanical actions like that was different than conscious memory. Well, that is what we called muscle memory.
Mira:
And actually it is neither here nor there, in the sense that Rudy was pointing the gun in Murphy's general direction. He wasn't standing around with his finger on the trigger.
Bad Alias:
--- Quote from: The_Sibelis on October 18, 2020, 04:37:42 AM ---cause he was being an idiot?
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Or because he doesn't know his own hardware.
--- Quote from: Arjan on October 18, 2020, 04:46:33 AM ---Because you have to drill these things into people until they do it without thinking otherwise it breaks down under stress. Rudolph was overstretched and breaking down.
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Which I would characterize as part and parcel of not knowing his hardware.
--- Quote from: The_Sibelis on October 18, 2020, 06:46:07 AM ---I don't think he was poorly trained, nothing but speculation supports that, he was trained.
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Both real world police training and Rudy's repeated lack of trigger discipline both suggest that he was poorly trained on firearms.
If you're halfway decently trained on firearms, you're not going to have your finger on the trigger until you've decided you're willing for the gun to go bang.
Jim is probably very familiar with this. He brought it up in Fool Moon when Harry said he'd err on the side of blowing Denton's head off.
BrainFireBob:
--- Quote from: Hagbard Celine on October 17, 2020, 05:42:45 PM ---Wow this was a roller coaster of a thread. Here is how I read the scene:
Once Murphy is shot and it sinks in. A switch is thrown in Harry. You can tell by the way he is talking. They're trying to get him to stop and he's dismissing him with the same tone that someone would use to say "Just let me wash my hands, then we can eat." That is the emotionless logic of a sociopath who treats murdering Rudolph has a banal task he needs to complete. The holy lightsaber, which Harry could pass his flesh through previously while feeling just a warm buzzing sensation now sears his flesh as if he is pure evil, which he is that that moment. The sword then has the same affect on harry as it does on the monsters. Once Harry snaps out of it, Butters could have pushed the lightsaber through him and it wouldn't have harmed in again. Harry is going to have another scar on his arm that reminds him not to become a monster. The sulfur smell was the signal that Harry was seriously in the wrong, I don't think it has anything to do with an outsider influencing Rudolph. It has everything to do with Harry being evil in that moment and the sword telling him a resounding "No."
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Exactly.
The swords exist to allow free will choice. Especially, they exist to neutralize the Denarians to allow their hosts free will.
In this case, Harry's free will is compromised by his Mantle. The sword gives him a shock to allow free willed choice. It's what the KotC are for.
Dina:
About the matter of brimstone, there is a chance that it is not as significant. I've just finished rereading PT and when Eb is fighting (fake) Harry, Eb hit Harry's shoulders with terrible force. The magic suit took the damage. It says: "There was a flash of light from the spider-silk suit, the scent of something putrid, burning. and instead it (the hit) merely felt like getting smacked...". I don't see any reason for that putrid smell so perhaps is like some spells are smelly when dispelled. But even so, it is weird to write a scene with two KoC and mentioning sulfur.
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