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KurtinStGeorge:
Good point about the three-eye addict.  What I find striking about that encounter, is the three-eye addict; who would have been a total newbie to the world of magic compared to a wizard, recognized the name of the Walker, as if it was written in bold letters on Harry. 

That strongly suggests that Warden Morgan or anyone from the White Council who used their wizard sight on Harry would also recognize it.  Not all wizards would know about Nemesis, but Morgan and most of the Senior Council would.

Now I really want to see a flashback scene to when the White Council first caught up with Harry to get an idea of what they experienced and how they perceived Harry.  I imagine it was Morgan who apprehended Harry, but we could be surprised and find out Morgan wasn't the only one there.

P.S. I also like the idea of the soulgaze revealing that Harry has been touched by darkness that comes from the Outside.  It makes the phrase "Empty Night" carry more meaning.     

Mira:

--- Quote ---Now I really want to see a flashback scene to when the White Council first caught up with Harry to get an idea of what they experienced and how they perceived Harry.  I imagine it was Morgan who apprehended Harry, but we could be surprised and find out Morgan wasn't the only one there.

P.S. I also like the idea of the soulgaze revealing that Harry has been touched by darkness that comes from the Outside.  It makes the phrase "Empty Night" carry more meaning. 
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I believe it was in Blood Rites when Eb mentions that he did do a soul gaze on sixteen year old Harry.  What he says he saw was lots of anger and incredible talent.. I think if he saw darkness of the kind an Outsider would bring, or evil, Eb would have said so. Also if you will remember Eb was under orders to kill Harry if he thought he was slipping into warlockhood or what ever evil they were looking for.  Yeah, I am aware that Eb is Harry's grandfather, but I do believe he would have killed him if necessary, just like you'd put down a mad dog no matter how beloved...

Snark Knight:

--- Quote from: toodeep on October 21, 2020, 06:16:15 PM ---3.  Drakul (probably on team evil - possibly a former human starborn who sucked in an outsider and now cohabitates with it mentally, immune to its control but warped by it anyways?)

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That would be a real stretch of the WOJ that Drakul is "something inhuman that got trapped in human form".  The WOJ frames the inhuman part as the part that makes Drakul what he is, he's more than just a warped human.

Mira:

--- Quote from: Snark Knight on October 29, 2024, 12:56:44 AM ---That would be a real stretch of the WOJ that Drakul is "something inhuman that got trapped in human form".  The WOJ frames the inhuman part as the part that makes Drakul what he is, he's more than just a warped human.

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 He is, but this confuses the issue doesn't it? :-\   Is there a WOJ saying that one doesn't have to be human to be star born? Or did the fact that Drakul was a human star born make his worse as a vampire?  Same goes for Listen, supposedly before he became a Fomor he was a human star born.

KurtinStGeorge:

--- Quote from: Mira on October 29, 2024, 12:29:35 PM --- He is, but this confuses the issue doesn't it? :-\   Is there a WOJ saying that one doesn't have to be human to be star born? Or did the fact that Drakul was a human star born make his worse as a vampire?  Same goes for Listen, supposedly before he became a Fomor he was a human star born.

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I agree, it does seem odd, with this caveat.  Ebenezar said that Kinkaid had worked for Drakul for centuries, so that means that Drakul is really old, but so is Mab and she was once mortal.  So, Drakul might have also have once been a mortal.

We can take a guess that the Blackcourt was the creation of the Outsiders.  We only have Harry's intuition to go on here, that there is a relationship between these two groups, but I think it makes sense.

In this scenario we might see the Outsiders; perhaps one of the Walkers, did something to a mortal Drakul to make him change into "the creature" as Ebenezar describes him.  It would be an effective way to remove a starborn individual from being a potential threat into one that serves the Outsiders own purpose, even if only indirectly.

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