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It's all Mab's fault! (Battle Ground Spoilers)

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Arjan:

--- Quote from: Mira on October 13, 2020, 10:34:54 PM --- In the case of the Turtlenecks they started out human, were kidnapped by the Fomor and were genetically altered so they could live under water, they have gills, that is what their turtlenecks hide.
So mortal? Yes.. But still human? Who knows?

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The physical changes might not even be the most important. Their minds are also changed.

Snark Knight:

--- Quote from: Arjan on October 13, 2020, 10:38:38 PM ---The physical changes might not even be the most important. Their minds are also changed.

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Which is why I think it's pretty BS that Ramirez went along with the Council's party line that the Turtlenecks are human for 'screw Harry' purposes, after encouraging Molly to go all out against the mutated cultists who had been colonized by outsider servants in Cold Case. He's verging on villain at this point.

morriswalters:
A monster tried to eat him and you know what they say, all monsters look alike.

Arjan:

--- Quote from: Snark Knight on October 13, 2020, 10:57:40 PM ---Which is why I think it's pretty BS that Ramirez went along with the Council's party line that the Turtlenecks are human for 'screw Harry' purposes, after encouraging Molly to go all out against the mutated cultists who had been colonized by outsider servants in Cold Case. He's verging on villain at this point.

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Council law is somewhat flexible so it can be used by council politics to get the desired effect. There is no separation of powers in the white council. As soon as they decide you are a warlock everything is allowed and they think they are right. They basically told Harry he isn’t human anymore.

And Ramirez believes the party line. He thinks it is necessary.

Mira:

--- Quote from: Snark Knight on October 13, 2020, 10:57:40 PM ---Which is why I think it's pretty BS that Ramirez went along with the Council's party line that the Turtlenecks are human for 'screw Harry' purposes, after encouraging Molly to go all out against the mutated cultists who had been colonized by outsider servants in Cold Case. He's verging on villain at this point.

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Considering that Carlos vaporized a fair share of them, himself, and nobody is accusing him of breaking the First Law. 

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