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It's all Mab's fault! (Battle Ground Spoilers)
StrayDog:
--- Quote from: Mira on October 13, 2020, 01:39:59 PM ---I don't think so, Murphy died because she did what she always did, go out to fight above her weight class. In the past this plan has served her well, using her brains to guide her skills. With the help of Mab's spell and her preplanning, it was serving her well again, both the motorcycle and the freedom from pain. However one cannot plan for random nut cases. I think Rudolph had been on the brink for years, the events in Chicago just pushed him over the edge.
I doubt that anyone killed Murphy by proxy. Yes, it took a burn from the Sword of Faith to sober Harry up, but the reason the Knights were so hell bent on stopping him from killing Rudolph is because it isn't Harry's place to judge his fate, that is up to human justice and the Almighty. It stopped Harry from truly being guilty of murder not just from a human point of view, but the First Law of Magic, Harry would be executed one way or the other, and he is needed in the future.
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Murphy's death was IMO one of the best written parts of both books. A little wordy over the empty house bit but still well written. Harry's response as well as the Knights response was also well written.
Snark Knight:
--- Quote from: Mira on October 07, 2020, 11:46:22 AM ---I agree as far as Murphy is concerned. Rudolph, however wasn't a sacrifice, it will be interesting to see if he survived if what is left of his sanity is intact.
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And what becomes of him otherwise. As much as Sanya and Butters were morally right that Harry shouldn't murder him in wrath, I suspect they were wrong that human justice would address him killing Murphy. Unless he's inclined to confess, there isn't even a body left after the valkyries took her away. The DV police aren't exactly proactive about missing persons during normal times, let alone amid tens of thousands dead and hundreds of thousands displaced by the damage.
After the injuries and the scare Harry did to him, I wouldn't be surprised if he just gets more motivated and sneaky about destroying Harry from a distance. If he's sane enough to try to keep his job, his version of events is probably going to be "Bradley assaulted me then ran off, and Dresden tried to murder me with his bare hands. I don't know anything about Murphy, but they were probably both complicit in the terrorist attack".
Telynn:
--- Quote from: Snark Knight on October 13, 2020, 05:41:41 PM ---And what becomes of him otherwise. As much as Sanya and Butters were morally right that Harry shouldn't murder him in wrath, I suspect they were wrong that human justice would address him killing Murphy. Unless he's inclined to confess, there isn't even a body left after the valkyries took her away. The DV police aren't exactly proactive about missing persons during normal times, let alone amid tens of thousands dead and hundreds of thousands displaced by the damage.
After the injuries and the scare Harry did to him, I wouldn't be surprised if he just gets more motivated and sneaky about destroying Harry from a distance. If he's sane enough to try to keep his job, his version of events is probably going to be "Bradley assaulted me then ran off, and Dresden tried to murder me with his bare hands. I don't know anything about Murphy, but they were probably both complicit in the terrorist attack".
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Yep. You have to keep in mind how little any authorities can piece together any sort of crime during this whole thing. Be a perfect time for someone with that sort of bent to take out someone they don't like. No time to do a good investigation, crime scene trampled on by an invading force. Almost all the dead are just going to be written off as part of the terrorist attack. And in this specific case, no body. I kept shaking my head every time someone said something about it is for the authorities to decide the justice. Not that I don't agree with the idea that Harry shouldn't kill Rudolph, but telling him let the authorities handle it was a major cop out.
Mira:
--- Quote from: Telynn on October 13, 2020, 06:00:17 PM ---Yep. You have to keep in mind how little any authorities can piece together any sort of crime during this whole thing. Be a perfect time for someone with that sort of bent to take out someone they don't like. No time to do a good investigation, crime scene trampled on by an invading force. Almost all the dead are just going to be written off as part of the terrorist attack. And in this specific case, no body. I kept shaking my head every time someone said something about it is for the authorities to decide the justice. Not that I don't agree with the idea that Harry shouldn't kill Rudolph, but telling him let the authorities handle it was a major cop out.
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Perhaps, however he will get his eventually, divine justice if nothing else. I'd be shocked if he manages to get Bradley to go along with anything against Harry. Yeah, well if Harry had simply used a gun on him, he might get away with it, but he was going to use magic.. Butters told him best, they need "the good man" Harry, not a warlock.
Telynn:
--- Quote from: Mira on October 13, 2020, 06:07:20 PM ---Perhaps, however he will get his eventually, divine justice if nothing else. I'd be shocked if he manages to get Bradley to go along with anything against Harry. Yeah, well if Harry had simply used a gun on him, he might get away with it, but he was going to use magic.. Butters told him best, they need "the good man" Harry, not a warlock.
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That's something I was wondering. Would killing Rudolph by physically crushing him with his magical shield count as killing someone with magic? I mean, he could have picked up any strong object and done the same thing.
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