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[major BG spoilers] About the Council.

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Mira:

--- Quote ---But the island could make deals with Mab and bonea. The island could take decisions about how to handle the ladies. I think it was not fully awake during turncoat. It has to develop skills for communicating with Harry as well.
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Remember in Cold Days this is was the main reason why Harry "borrowed" Bob from Butters, he needed Bob to translate what Alfred was trying to tell him about how the place functioned.  Bob had to "dumb" down a lot of instructions for Harry.

As far as deals with Mab and Bonea, they were pretty basic, shelter Harry and keep him alive until Uriel was done teaching his lesson.  Alfred didn't want to lose his new caretaker. page 474
Ghost Story, Alfred explains.

--- Quote ---OUR INTERESTS COINCIDED.
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--- Quote ---At the same time, I feel like the Wardens had already convinced themselves that he was, so whatever he'd say would be either ignored or construed as deception. I don't disagree that he should have said, flat-out, "No. Hell no." but I'm not sure they would have believed him at all...
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Yeah, I don't think it would have made any difference whether or not he admitted to having sex with Murphy.  The Wardens were implying that he was having sex with Lara, which he wasn't.  Harry is a gentleman, he doesn't kiss and tell, and he isn't going to reveal his sex partner if it had nothing to do with the situation at hand.  At that point he really didn't know a heck of a lot more than the Wardens did, except who Thomas is, and that might have only made things worse.   

Bad Alias:

--- Quote from: forumghost on October 06, 2020, 07:20:10 PM ---I think the theory is less that they want to throw away Eb, but want to put him in line. From what we've seen the Senior Council was originally divided into two Blocks; The Merlin, Mai, and La Fortier on one side and Simon, LTW, and Martha Liberty on the other, with Rashid largely away from things. Then Simon and La Fortier died and it became The Merlin and Mai on one side with Eb, LTW and Martha Liberty on the other, with Christos playing for power.

Essentially, The Merlin could be holding a death sentence over Harry's head to re-establish control over the Senior Council from Eb's Block. Politics.

Not sure I buy it though.

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I don't see how that works. The next time the full Senior Council is in session, Eb can just undo it, unless the Gatekeeper was part of the unanimous vote.

Icecream:
I feel like there may be a play going on.

They might genuinely believe Harry is compromised so by not associating with Dresden , if he does anything to piss off the other signatories they not liable for what he does.

Or Maybe someone blackmailed the Merlin. Mab might have pee tapes of the Merlin or something 🤣

Dina:
Icecream!!! Long time no seeing you! How are you doing? (((((IC)))))

My problem is what "compromised" means. If they mean that Mab could use him for things they don't want...well, expelling him allows her to do exactly that.

Dina:

--- Quote from: forumghost on October 06, 2020, 08:24:10 PM ---Yeah, Harry was a total moron with Carlos in PT.

Carlos: "Bro, are you fucking the evil vampire queen"

Harry: "Fuck you and the horse you rode in on, how dare you ask me about my personal life you asshole"

Like jesus dude, are you fucking trying to make him think that you are enthralled???

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And then, to rescue Thomas, they make everyone believe that...he was fucking the evil vampire queen. And then, the next time Carlos says "you lied to us"  he plays offended.

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