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[major BG spoilers] About the Council.

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Arjan:

--- Quote from: Mira on October 06, 2020, 05:54:14 PM ---He still couldn't act without orders.  If he could, do you think he'd allow his new Warden to be in the kind of danger he was in when he fought Shaggy?

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Apparently. Kringle specifically spoke about the island now shielding Harry from Anduriel spying because he awoke the island. During turn coat they did not know each other that well.

But the island could make deals with Mab and bonea. The island could take decisions about how to handle the ladies. I think it was not fully awake during turncoat. It has to develop skills for communicating with Harry as well.

Telynn:
I think Harry giving it a name (Alfred) will be a big deal.  It might have made him more...  I don't know... real? Giving something a name seems to be really important in this series and Harry unknowingly is running around doing that all over the place.

Bad Alias:

--- Quote from: ClintACK on October 06, 2020, 05:03:09 PM ---This is the Merlin's ultimate Sword of Damocles to hold over Eb's head -- passed by a "unanimous vote", while Eb and LtW were in the hospital and Rashid was at the Outer Gates.

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This seems foolish. My brother finished the book this weekend, so we started talking about it. His big complaint is the conversation with Carlos. Harry's just not there for it, which I get. He's too drained to care too much. Anyway, my brother made the point that the Council has thrown away it's top two field soldiers. First Morgan and now Harry. And they're threatening to get rid of the Blackstaff?!? Like Eb's just going to accept it?

Kicking Harry out only really makes sense to me if elements in the Council are being stupid and other elements need Harry out so he can operate outside of the strictures of the Council.

forumghost:

--- Quote from: Bad Alias on October 06, 2020, 06:48:51 PM ---This seems foolish. My brother finished the book this weekend, so we started talking about it. His big complaint is the conversation with Carlos. Harry's just not there for it, which I get. He's too drained to care too much. Anyway, my brother made the point that the Council has thrown away it's top two field soldiers. First Morgan and now Harry. And they're threatening to get rid of the Blackstaff?!? Like Eb's just going to accept it?

Kicking Harry out only really makes sense to me if elements in the Council are being stupid and other elements need Harry out so he can operate outside of the strictures of the Council.

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I think the theory is less that they want to throw away Eb, but want to put him in line. From what we've seen the Senior Council was originally divided into two Blocks; The Merlin, Mai, and La Fortier on one side and Simon, LTW, and Martha Liberty on the other, with Rashid largely away from things. Then Simon and La Fortier died and it became The Merlin and Mai on one side with Eb, LTW and Martha Liberty on the other, with Christos playing for power.

Essentially, The Merlin could be holding a death sentence over Harry's head to re-establish control over the Senior Council from Eb's Block. Politics.

Not sure I buy it though.

BrainFireBob:

--- Quote from: Telynn on October 06, 2020, 06:09:49 PM ---I think Harry giving it a name (Alfred) will be a big deal.  It might have made him more...  I don't know... real? Giving something a name seems to be really important in this series and Harry unknowingly is running around doing that all over the place.

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My pet theory is that starborn are walking conjunctions, giving them a limited ability to alter reality.

So, power over Outsiders because they can accept them "inside" and then hurt them. Power over Names, which lets them alter nature.

And Harry's big mouth, yes.

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