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Griffyn612:

--- Quote from: Cymbaline on October 04, 2020, 08:21:08 PM ---Harry needs to be very, very, very careful with the knowledge about Marcone around Mab.  The Sidhe do not give out information without a price, and for him to simply give out such valuable information could have massive unintended consequences.  Not only the information itself, even if she knows, just the knowledge that he also knows could be dangerous.

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I think Harry calling Marcone "sir" at the end, and Mab's reaction, was either her finding out that Harry found out, or her realizing the meaning. 

Griffyn612:

--- Quote from: Arjan on October 04, 2020, 08:11:55 PM ---The gatekeeper warned him against using the dark energy of the island but also said it might be possible if he gets older. I do think though that you have to remove an eye to use it. I do not expect any shortcut.

It probably needs a lot of hate as well. There are implications for using it.

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Oh he definitely needs to be careful.  But having that power channel through a dark foci rather than himself would have to make a huge difference.

As for losing an eye to use it, maybe.  My first thought, if that's the case, would be to have Alfred use it. But I'm not sure how ready Harry is to go changing Alfred's programming.

I'm not sure we've met an ally yet that's big enough, metaphysically, that can wield it.  Maybe Vadderung, but I too think he'll be dead by the time they want to use it.

It probably requires rate and hate top wield it, and I'm not sure who fits that bill. 

Unless we get gross, and Harry can literally release parts of inmates, and he puts Ethniu's head in a crystal jar whenever he needs to pop the eye in and use it.  But that seems unlikely for numerous reasons.

Unless he meets a new ally in the wrestling book that's an immortal the he trusts with it, he might just have to find another way to use it.

Mira:

--- Quote from: Arjan on October 04, 2020, 07:03:00 PM ---The problem with a weapon that big is that you need someone big to use it.  I don’t think Harry and Marcone are in the right league for that.

Mab makes no effort to get it either. I think Marcone tried to paint a big target on Harry’s back and he countered that with spreading doubt.

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I think you are wrong there, I think all you need is the will to be able to use it.  Nobody on the White Council is physically all that big, yet they wanted the Eye.  If need be during the BAT Harry might turn it over to Rivershoulders to shoot, or Alfred is large enough to use it if it is needed to keep the island secure.  I think Harry could use it with some modifications.

Arjan:

--- Quote from: Mira on October 04, 2020, 10:07:07 PM ---I think you are wrong there, I think all you need is the will to be able to use it.  Nobody on the White Council is physically all that big, yet they wanted the Eye.  If need be during the BAT Harry might turn it over to Rivershoulders to shoot, or Alfred is large enough to use it if it is needed to keep the island secure.  I think Harry could use it with some modifications.

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Not physically. Metaphysically, spiritual mass.

And I don't think it is safe to use an item that big that is made of pure hate. It will make you hate. It is just not safe to use even if you can use it.

Bad Alias:

--- Quote from: Griffyn612 on October 04, 2020, 04:56:45 PM ---Is the Archive secretly affiliated with [the Librarians].

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I think I remember a WoJ to that effect. Of course, we'd never see that in one of the novels.

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