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Airsoft Vigilante [Battle Ground Spoilers]

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Griffyn612:
I imagine there'll be ruthless vigilantes, and there'll be... ruthful vigilantes?

Basically I'm picturing a group of young people like Fitz banning together and trying to protect people.  Fitz'll have Forthhill making holy water without knowing exactly what he's doing with it, and Fitz will make a new band of warriors with non-lethal arms. 

The ones with lethal arms would probably be hunted by the cops and Marcone alike.

But what other weaknesses are there that they could target?  We know Winter is susceptible to hawthorne, but it and sunlight probably isn't all that packageable.  Anything else?  Inherited silver bullets?

I'm basically picturing them with airsoft rifles with 300 ball magazines with colored tape on them to differentiate the ammo.


--- Quote from: Arjan on October 03, 2020, 07:49:25 PM ---everything you can effectively shoot with a gun harms mortals. an iron ball will certainly kill you.

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Yeah, but airsoft weapons are infinitely less likely to kill than a .22, much less a 9mm or higher. 

Bad Alias:

--- Quote from: Arjan on October 03, 2020, 07:49:25 PM ---everything you can effectively shoot with a gun harms mortals. an iron ball will certainly kill you.

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Airsoft and rocksalt aren't lethal.


--- Quote from: Griffyn612 on October 03, 2020, 07:53:47 PM ---Yeah, but airsoft weapons are infinitely less likely to kill than a .22, much less a 9mm or higher.

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It's more about velocity than diameter. Airsoft is pretty close in size to .22lr.

Thinking about it, while I definitely wouldn't want to be hit with steel bird or target shot, it's not very likely to be lethal. Shotguns might be a better alternative to airsoft.

Arjan:
If it does not kill a mortal it shall not be that effective against all but the weakest supernaturals. An air gun won’t even go through most clothing.

Griffyn612:

--- Quote from: Bad Alias on October 03, 2020, 08:43:57 PM ---Airsoft and rocksalt aren't lethal.
It's more about velocity than diameter. Airsoft is pretty close in size to .22lr.

Thinking about it, while I definitely wouldn't want to be hit with steel bird or target shot, it's not very likely to be lethal. Shotguns might be a better alternative to airsoft.

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I would imagine there's a big difference being found on the streets with airsoft and being found with a shotgun. Not that a team of vigilantes wouldn't use conventional weapons as needed, but I'm assuming they're trying to toe the line between legal and illegal.


--- Quote from: Arjan on October 03, 2020, 08:47:52 PM ---If it does not kill a mortal it shall not be that effective against all but the weakest supernaturals. An air gun won’t even go through most clothing.

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Mavra is one of the most powerful black Court sorceresses there is, with power enough to require Eb to shut her down, and she was hurt and ran from garlic from an Italian restaurant.

Aurora was one of the six most powerful Sidhe, and she died from razor blades.

I think having the right weapon would give even vanilla mortals a chance against street-level bad guys. Especially when simple iron will cut through Sidhe flesh like butter, regardless of how tough they are to conventional weapons.

Bad Alias:

--- Quote from: Griffyn612 on October 03, 2020, 08:54:07 PM ---I would imagine there's a big difference being found on the streets with airsoft and being found with a shotgun.

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They could legally carry handguns. It's a real pain to get a license in a Chicago that wasn't just invaded by a Titan and supernatural army, but it's legal. They have handguns that take shotshells. Now, the politics of our world and Dresden's are going to be different after the largest mass casualty event in America sense the Civil War. I'd see either all gun control being completely out the window or doubled down on, so what would be legal to walk the streets of Chicago with would be complete speculation. I don't think it's accurate to base it on what the law was in our Chicago at the same point on the calendar.

Assuming the same laws as in the real world, how illegal are airsoft guns in Chicago? There's a certain point where if you're in for a felony, you might as well turn your AR into a full auto. It's really easy. Select fire may or may not be easy.

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