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Airsoft Vigilante [Battle Ground Spoilers]

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Griffyn612:

--- Quote from: Bad Alias on October 03, 2020, 09:21:08 PM ---They could legally carry handguns. It's a real pain to get a license in a Chicago that wasn't just invaded by a Titan and supernatural army, but it's legal. They have handguns that take shotshells. Now, the politics of our world and Dresden's are going to be different after the largest mass casualty event in America sense the Civil War. I'd see either all gun control being completely out the window or doubled down on, so what would be legal to walk the streets of Chicago with would be complete speculation. I don't think it's accurate to base it on what the law was in our Chicago at the same point on the calendar.

Assuming the same laws as in the real world, how illegal are airsoft guns in Chicago? There's a certain point where if you're in for a felony, you might as well turn your AR into a full auto. It's really easy. Select fire may or may not be easy.

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With the official excuse being "terrorist attack", I can't see the official response being anything other than overreaction to secure the city.  Loosening gun control laws or not enforcing them, officially, wouldn't happen.

Cops might not do much enforcement or license checking for handguns, but shotguns and rifles are going to get their attention. People with those weapons feel safe, but everyone else seeing them feel stress. And the city will be very concerned about mass panic.

So if Fitz or someone gets seen with an AR shaped weapon, and they're stopped and found to be carrying a real weapon without permit, they're going to jail. If it's an airsoft, they'll probably get a warning. Sure, it's still illegal, but the cops aren't going to freak out over that unless they mistake them for real.

Telynn:

--- Quote from: Griffyn612 on October 03, 2020, 09:56:49 PM ---With the official excuse being "terrorist attack", I can't see the official response being anything other than overreaction to secure the city.  Loosening gun control laws or not enforcing them, officially, wouldn't happen.

Cops might not do much enforcement or license checking for handguns, but shotguns and rifles are going to get their attention. People with those weapons feel safe, but everyone else seeing them feel stress. And the city will be very concerned about mass panic.

So if Fitz or someone gets seen with an AR shaped weapon, and they're stopped and found to be carrying a real weapon without permit, they're going to jail. If it's an airsoft, they'll probably get a warning. Sure, it's still illegal, but the cops aren't going to freak out over that unless they mistake them for real.

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You have to keep in mind, it won't be business as usual for the local police.  They know.  The nation as a whole might manage to accept the explanation, but things will be way different in Chicago.  It's really going to be interesting to see how Jim plays this out.  It could go either way, with the local authorities playing along with the explanation (maybe with some national presence like Nat Guard and they have to) or not and letting a lot go that they wouldn't have before.

Bad Alias:

--- Quote from: Griffyn612 on October 03, 2020, 09:56:49 PM ---So if Fitz or someone gets seen with an AR shaped weapon...

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What if the minor talents do some minor enchantment that makes them go unnoticed?


--- Quote from: Telynn on October 03, 2020, 10:34:10 PM ---You have to keep in mind, it won't be business as usual for the local police.  They know.  The nation as a whole might manage to accept the explanation, but things will be way different in Chicago.  It's really going to be interesting to see how Jim plays this out.  It could go either way, with the local authorities playing along with the explanation (maybe with some national presence like Nat Guard and they have to) or not and letting a lot go that they wouldn't have before.

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Honestly, that's all a local response. National Guard answers to the Governor. It's usually an urban vs rural thing. If urban swings pro-gun, then Illinois does to.

Griffyn612:

--- Quote from: Bad Alias on October 04, 2020, 03:42:50 AM ---What if the minor talents do some minor enchantment that makes them go unnoticed?

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Depends on whether or not such things will draw the ire of the White Council.  One way or another, they'll be keeping tabs on Harry. But they've still got to keep an iron grip on other talents; otherwise they'll lose credibility.  And enchantments that manipulate people's perceptions by a non-Council approved/trained wizard might cross a line.

XDoctor:
I would assume that concern for being caught with an illegal weapon goes out the window when we're off to commit some murder.  Taking a toy to go fight some monsters feel to me like a good way to get your face eaten.  On the other hand, if you took a good sized hollow point round, 45acp maybe, and added a penetrator like an AP round, something bimetal like the M995 with tungsten and steel, and then filled the cavity of the bullet with holy water and sealed it up...  Now we're getting somewhere.  Shotgun is still probably superior, but you could lay down a lot of pain with a modern subgun and a round like that. 

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