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TheCuriousFan:

--- Quote from: psuedonym on October 07, 2020, 09:56:02 PM ---Any one else think marcone picking up enough magic to do what all the other heavyweights in BG couldn't just from the coin and teachings of a fallen in such a short time is a bit off. Through out the series it has been said time and time again that marcone is vanilla, so how does he use magic? Nic has had 2000 year to learn but apparently because he had no talent he couldn't but marcone with no talent gets better than odin etc so quick it makes your head spin. Is this a glaring inconsistency or is somthing else going on

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It's surprising but it is something that was established back in Dead Beat with Lash's first offers.


--- Quote from: Dead Beat Chapter 25 ---"That I can do you a great deal of good," she said. "I have the knowledge and memory of two thousand years of life upon this world, and infinite thousands outside it. I know many things that could be of use to you. I can advise you. Teach you secrets of your craft never known to mortalkind. Show you sights no human has ever seen. Share with you memory and image beyond anything you could imagine."
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--- Quote from: Dead Beat Chapter 35 ---"Let me help you," she urged me. "I can help you defend yourself against the disciples of Kemmler. I can teach you magics you have never considered. I can show you how to make yourself stronger, swifter. I can show you how you might heal the damage to your hand, if you have enough discipline. There wouldn't even be a scar."
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For context this is offering to take him from knowing absolutely zero healing spells to being the single best healer on the White Council by a hefty margin in a decade at most with the implication that she could do something similar for other types of magic too (and now you know why Lash died the instant she turned away from Lasciel). And keep in mind that Thorned Namshiel is kind of the magic nerd of the denarians so he's even better. Marcone got pretty much the best tutor around.

As for Nicodemus, my only guess for the in-story explanation as to why he hasn't gone and pulled a Victor Sells to get the raw mojo of a senior council member or three is that he's one of the few people with absolutely zero magical talent so making himself basically a demigod is a no-go even with the church throwing their own pseudo-gods at him. Of course the real reason is that him slinging spells everywhere would seriously screw with his role as the anti-Michael.

morriswalters:
Harry was already a wizard.  Marcone's demon form has accoutrements, Harry calls him Spiny Boy. Not gonna be a good look for Marcone.

Griffyn612:

--- Quote from: morriswalters on October 08, 2020, 01:00:53 AM ---Harry was already a wizard.  Marcone's demon form has accoutrements, Harry calls him Spiny Boy. Not gonna be a good look for Marcone.

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Think again.

morriswalters:
Then again.

Pirate101:
ClintACK, I came to the same conclusions after rereading Even Hand.  :)

I was wondering whether Justine was the one to send Shagnasty after Thomas. I'm starting to suspect that her brains were never cured. While she still loved him at the time, Nemesis did the thinking. Making her believe that it was for Thomas' own good if he returned to his Vampire ways.


--- Quote from: Arjan on October 03, 2020, 11:10:16 AM ---Except we do not know when Justine was infected. She was a captive in even hand and she could have been infected during her captivity. That explains her escape, the Fomor have too much experience in holding captives to make escape easy.

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Do you suspect that Besides wanted to cast doubts on Justine's every action since White Night at least by lying about the time of the infection?
I dunno, it makes a lot of sense to me that it was telling the truth. Harry was not supposed to survive at that point. Of course, Besides could have done it anyway, just to torment Harry or in case Harry escaped. He is a Starborn after all...

The implications are severe if Besides was telling the truth: It would mean that True Love and Nemesis can coexist (at least for a while), Nemesis might even be able to abuse it (that's what I think happened with Justine), Thomas will have to come to terms with it that the healthy and seemingly sane Justine he loved was a puppet the whole time ... it's very hard to swallow but is it really impossible?

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