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Revelations and Rereads (Battle Ground Spoilers)
ClintACK:
Two huge character reveals in Battle Ground: Marcone and Justine.
I'm going to have to reread some books, but just skimming things for discussions, every time they appear I'm having to reassess what's happening.
At the end of Turn Coat, Justine is Harry's only point of contact for Thomas. She says it takes weeks for her to talk him into seeing Harry. Shagnasty *destroyed* Thomas. Justine's love nursed him back to mental health. She was Nemesis at the time. In Ghost Story, Justine brings him women to feed on -- he trusts her to pick his victims, knowing that the nature of their souls influences him. (You are what you eat.) And she was Nemesis the whole time.
Similarly, in Changes, when Harry meets with Marcone for their usual threats-and-banter... it's almost certain that he's taken up Namshiel's coin by then, and is studying wizardry. And there's not a hint of it -- except "Is that how you think it would happen?"
Also, I think there's a connection between these two revelations. Clearly, Marcone took the coin in Small Favor, but I bet he didn't take it up at that time. I think what pushed him over the edge to taking up the coin was the events of Even Hand. And I think that was the point of Even Hand. Justine/Nemesis got the Fomor to probe Marcone's anti-wizard defenses while she watched from the inside, and their failure was what pushed Marcone into taking up Namshiel's coin. Even Hand takes place between Turn Coat and Changes.
Arjan:
Except we do not know when Justine was infected. She was a captive in even hand and she could have been infected during her captivity. That explains her escape, the Fomor have too much experience in holding captives to make escape easy.
Mira:
--- Quote from: Arjan on October 03, 2020, 11:10:16 AM ---Except we do not know when Justine was infected. She was a captive in even hand and she could have been infected during her captivity. That explains her escape, the Fomor have too much experience in holding captives to make escape easy.
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She also was captive as far back as Grave Peril. We've always thought her insanity was cured by Thomas feeding on her, and maybe medication as well. But what if the "cure" was Nemenes?
TheCuriousFan:
--- Quote from: ClintACK on October 03, 2020, 10:23:50 AM ---Two huge character reveals in Battle Ground: Marcone and Justine.
I'm going to have to reread some books, but just skimming things for discussions, every time they appear I'm having to reassess what's happening.
At the end of Turn Coat, Justine is Harry's only point of contact for Thomas. She says it takes weeks for her to talk him into seeing Harry. Shagnasty *destroyed* Thomas. Justine's love nursed him back to mental health. She was Nemesis at the time. In Ghost Story, Justine brings him women to feed on -- he trusts her to pick his victims, knowing that the nature of their souls influences him. (You are what you eat.) And she was Nemesis the whole time.
Similarly, in Changes, when Harry meets with Marcone for their usual threats-and-banter... it's almost certain that he's taken up Namshiel's coin by then, and is studying wizardry. And there's not a hint of it -- except "Is that how you think it would happen?"
Also, I think there's a connection between these two revelations. Clearly, Marcone took the coin in Small Favor, but I bet he didn't take it up at that time. I think what pushed him over the edge to taking up the coin was the events of Even Hand. And I think that was the point of Even Hand. Justine/Nemesis got the Fomor to probe Marcone's anti-wizard defenses while she watched from the inside, and their failure was what pushed Marcone into taking up Namshiel's coin. Even Hand takes place between Turn Coat and Changes.
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She also just happened to out Harry and Thomas' relationship in front of another warden.
psuedonym:
Any one else think marcone picking up enough magic to do what all the other heavyweights in BG couldn't just from the coin and teachings of a fallen in such a short time is a bit off. Through out the series it has been said time and time again that marcone is vanilla, so how does he use magic? Nic has had 2000 year to learn but apparently because he had no talent he couldn't but marcone with no talent gets better than odin etc so quick it makes your head spin. Is this a glaring inconsistency or is somthing else going on
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