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Re: Anyone else... disappointed? [PT/BG spoilers]
« Reply #255 on: November 07, 2020, 08:27:24 PM »
According to Bob it has to do with exchanging pieces of your soul.
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Re: Anyone else... disappointed? [PT/BG spoilers]
« Reply #256 on: November 07, 2020, 08:45:26 PM »
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Ah, I like that better. So, if he really changed his mind, I am glad. Still, intimacy works for my idea. Dresden and Murph have not been so intimate until PT.

I mean depends how widely you treat intimacy.
Now I'd generally prefer it repelance for psychic vampires were simply countering their emotional frequencies - fear with courage, despair with hope, lust with restraint - but I guess restraint against lust would make it virtually impossible for Dresden to ever be protected and he would be eaten by Inari.

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According to Dob it has to do with exchanging pieces of your soul.

But then hope against Skavis works.. how?
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Re: Anyone else... disappointed? [PT/BG spoilers]
« Reply #257 on: November 07, 2020, 08:51:46 PM »
On the other hand, he would be invulnerable to fear vampires  :)
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Re: Anyone else... disappointed? [PT/BG spoilers]
« Reply #258 on: November 07, 2020, 08:55:13 PM »
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On the other hand, he would be invulnerable to fear vampires

I'd say it's like 50:50.
He had a lot of inner fear they could use against him - depends how smart in psychomanipulation they would be.
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Re: Anyone else... disappointed? [PT/BG spoilers]
« Reply #259 on: November 07, 2020, 09:06:55 PM »


Well, we do know that one can have true love more than once with different people.  Harry had true love with Susan, she died, he remain protected until Luccio, they liked one another but because her brain had been tampered with by Peabody's ink, it never became true love.  Also because they had sex, it killed Harry's protection from Susan.. Harry and Murphy had true, love, Harry is protected, she is dead, but if Harry refrains from sex for the rest of his life, he should remain protected.
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Re: Anyone else... disappointed? [PT/BG spoilers]
« Reply #260 on: November 07, 2020, 09:18:45 PM »
Dunno. Maybe Murphy's death breaks it.
Weren't he and Lara been able to shake hands?
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Re: Anyone else... disappointed? [PT/BG spoilers]
« Reply #261 on: November 07, 2020, 09:51:45 PM »
That is because Lara did not want to feed from him at the moment. The same happened with Susan. Dresden is not Harry Potter, is not his skin that burns. It's when the whampire tries to feed from him that he/she is burned.
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Re: Anyone else... disappointed? [PT/BG spoilers]
« Reply #262 on: November 07, 2020, 10:51:30 PM »
Right, but she was burned accidentally in Peace Talks.
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Re: Anyone else... disappointed? [PT/BG spoilers]
« Reply #263 on: November 07, 2020, 11:39:01 PM »
Yes, but that is probably because she was distracted, and as such, her hunger was ready to feed. Lara needs to control herself not to feed, I think.
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Re: Anyone else... disappointed? [PT/BG spoilers]
« Reply #264 on: November 08, 2020, 11:15:12 AM »
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Dunno. Maybe Murphy's death breaks it.
Weren't he and Lara been able to shake hands?

Susan's death didn't break Harry's protection until he took up with Luccio.
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Re: Anyone else... disappointed? [PT/BG spoilers]
« Reply #265 on: November 08, 2020, 11:21:00 AM »
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Susan's death didn't break Harry's protection until he took up with Luccio.
Susan was very much alive when Harry hooked up with Luccio.
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Re: Anyone else... disappointed? [PT/BG spoilers]
« Reply #266 on: November 08, 2020, 05:09:15 PM »
I don’t think it matters. The protection is there.
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Re: Anyone else... disappointed? [PT/BG spoilers]
« Reply #267 on: November 08, 2020, 06:53:05 PM »
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Susan was very much alive when Harry hooked up with Luccio.
Yes. Half-Turned, but very alive.
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Re: Anyone else... disappointed? [PT/BG spoilers]
« Reply #268 on: November 08, 2020, 08:12:51 PM »
Hard to say.
As I said I'm not a fan of this True Love thing - I'd much prefer it to be sort of mental duel with such vampire than some almost excuse random category. With Skavis and Malvora you have to prove your virtue to burn those bastards.
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Re: Anyone else... disappointed? [PT/BG spoilers]
« Reply #269 on: November 09, 2020, 04:38:39 PM »
Quote from: Wicked Woodpecker of West on November 08, 2020, 08:12:51 PM
Hard to say.
As I said I'm not a fan of this True Love thing - I'd much prefer it to be sort of mental duel with such vampire than some almost excuse random category. With Skavis and Malvora you have to prove your virtue to burn those bastards.

Yeah, I've always had trouble with it as well.  It never was clear and it has been debated a bunch over the years.  What constitutes true love?  Supposedly just touching a wedding ring of a someone who has true love protection can burn, or a flower touched and given in true love.  Yet getting raped can destroy the protection? Yes, we've gone around and around on that one.  It makes no sense.  Does it come down to being unfaithful?  You can get drunk and have a one night stand, still truly love someone else, but your protection is gone.   Did Justine have sex with the woman she brought home because she loved her?  Or so the protection would be erased and she an Thomas could have sex?  Or more to the point, was she motivated by her true love for Thomas to do it so they could consummate their relationship, which you'd think would seal not destroy the whole protection thing. Or was Justine infested with Nemesis as of Ghost Story and wanted to destroy her protection so she could eventually get pregnant to set up other events?
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