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Mira:

--- Quote ---All true and explainable but JB can accomplish all of his goals without making Fidelacchius a lightsaber
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Actually, when you think about it, no, he couldn't.  Butters is neither a warrior, or an athlete, so picking up the skills needed in a short time to be a Holy Knight would be difficult without cheating a bit.  The light Saber is that bit of a cheat, in my opinion.  Now if Butters had become a Knight back in  book four or five, he would have had the years needed to developer skills as he went along.

morriswalters:

--- Quote from: StrayDog on October 10, 2020, 02:01:05 PM ---Sorry for being pedantic here but JB has been very careful to list the swords as love, hope, and faith. This seems to be very significant given the ongoing theme that names have power. Humans throwing them around like hand grenades and all. Didn't Michael use his faith to call in God's intervention and end Tessa's attack? Esperacchius was in his hand, glowing and all, but it wasn't the swords work.

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I said the sword........and his faith. Names make them characters in the story.  Each has had a story line through their wielders. Jim changes the essential nature of the sword to make Butter's able to wield it.
--- Quote ---Once again, the swords clashed, only things were different now. Instead of Sanya dominating the fight, Butters had the edge. Esperacchius darted and whirled, liquid smooth, but as fast as Sanya was with his blade, the steel sword wasn’t weightless.

Butcher, Jim. Peace Talks (Dresden Files) (p. 173). Penguin Publishing Group. Kindle Edition.
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Butters can cut up a bridge in Chicago but he can no longer have a sword fight. I've already commented on why Butters is part of a ménage à trois, and it has nothing to do with sex.

Dina:

--- Quote from: morriswalters on October 10, 2020, 09:35:56 AM ---Butters reached his peak in Dead Beat, when having nothing, he chose to stand and fight, knowing that he would probably die. I almost lost my mind I was so excited.

Then, in hero journey that ran at the speed of light, he becomes the magic skateboard rider who screws over his friends and gets a magic weapon. And by next books has abs of steel and two sex partners who are werewolves. And a sword so powerful Jim has to nerf it. It isn't so much that I hate Butter's as it is that he didn't earn what Jim gave him. /end rant

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I highlighted those parts because I see a contradiction in what you say. He earned the Knighthood by being bold and taking the decision to fight against evil. (And I loved what you told us about SW)

Butters has trained a lot, so of course his physicality got much better, but even so, he was not as good a fighter as Sanya and he messed up in his last attack. I see nothing difficult to believe there.

morriswalters:
Yeah I loved Star Wars until one day I didn't.  They milked it to death.  Plus young people will never see the Star Wars that I(we) saw, since Lucas retconned it with CGI.  I had hopes for the last three, but...  On the brighter side we now have Baby Yoda. ;D

The leap from a frightened out of your mind dweeb to a guy that overcame his terror is a much greater then the leap  he made in Skin Game. In Skin Game it was about regaining faith in Harry.  But what we take away from the books is very much a product of our expectations I suppose. Maybe I want too much.  For the first time in the series I can't make myself listen to the audio book even though I bought it.

StrayDog:

--- Quote from: Mira on October 10, 2020, 04:34:48 PM ---Actually, when you think about it, no, he couldn't.  Butters is neither a warrior, or an athlete, so picking up the skills needed in a short time to be a Holy Knight would be difficult without cheating a bit.  The light Saber is that bit of a cheat, in my opinion.  Now if Butters had become a Knight back in  book four or five, he would have had the years needed to developer skills as he went along.

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You've touched on my initial point. This is all assuming Butters needs to be a Knight by the end of SG. I would rather Murphy was the wieldier of the sword of Faith and Butters stayed the resourceful one fighting with his brains and raw nerve.

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