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Anyone else... disappointed? [PT/BG spoilers]
KurtinStGeorge:
--- Quote from: Bad Alias on October 09, 2020, 03:22:28 AM ---I liked Fitz, but the whole side quest seemed kinda pointless. Honestly, the whole book seemed a bit pointless. Cold Days relitigated basically the whole thing.
I did really like the Mavra was giving lip to the other vampires.
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I agree. That was one small bit that I really liked. In the Dresdenverse even the un-dead can be as petty as a high school clique lording it over the other students.
One more thing that liked in BG. John Marcone getting darker and more dangerous. I have viscerally disliked fan ideas about Marcone becoming a KotC. I'm not saying this character is irredeemable, but he's a cold blooded mass murderer. Just because Marcone has a code of behavior that he follows and enforces doesn't make him a proto good guy who just needs a push in the right direction. I think Marcone will have to suffer a great deal before redemption becomes possible for him.
Mira:
--- Quote from: KurtinStGeorge on October 09, 2020, 04:53:44 AM ---I agree. That was one small bit that I really liked. In the Dresdenverse even the un-dead can be as petty as a high school clique lording it over the other students.
One more thing that liked in BG. John Marcone getting darker and more dangerous. I have viscerally disliked fan ideas about Marcone becoming a KotC. I'm not saying this character is irredeemable, but he's a cold blooded mass murderer. Just because Marcone has a code of behavior that he follows and enforces doesn't make him a proto good guy who just needs a push in the right direction. I think Marcone will have to suffer a great deal before redemption becomes possible for him.
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Yeah, what is scary is when he let Harry have the eye, he said he is learning think for "the long term." He has something in mind.
--- Quote ---Oh, Mab manipulated Harry and it was masterful. I'm going to start a new thread on that subject tomorrow. Wait until you see the evidence before you judge. Jim did a great job of hiding the manipulation in plain site.
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I'm not saying she didn't and I will be interested in what you write. However Harry loves his city and those who live with in it, he didn't have to be manipulated to fight for it or them. Yes, Mab manipulated him as any general will manipulate her officers. But what I am saying is also true. They reached an understanding, especially on the subject of how one loses one's soul.
Bad Alias:
--- Quote from: Mira on October 09, 2020, 05:32:26 AM ---Yeah, what is scary is when he let Harry have the eye, he said he is learning think for "the long term." He has something in mind.
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I'm not saying the totality of the plan was revealed in BG, but I do think some of it was. Harry thinks that Marcone wanted the Council to have another reason to throw him out. Furthermore, the eye doesn't really give Harry any more power. It does put a target on him. Marcone's more worried about Harry than having an artifact he can't use that will put a target on his back.
Mira:
--- Quote from: Bad Alias on October 09, 2020, 05:40:12 AM ---I'm not saying the totality of the plan was revealed in BG, but I do think some of it was. Harry thinks that Marcone wanted the Council to have another reason to throw him out. Furthermore, the eye doesn't really give Harry any more power. It does put a target on him. Marcone's more worried about Harry than having an artifact he can't use that will put a target on his back.
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Oh I think it is longer term than that. I think Namshiel thinks he can win Harry over to his side eventually. If for no other reason than Marcone and Harry have been allies in the past when it suited both of them. It may all come down to Beckett's daughter, who still is in a coma somewhere. That is Marcone's weak spot.
Bad Alias:
--- Quote from: Mira on October 09, 2020, 05:53:06 AM ---Oh I think it is longer term than that. I think Namshiel thinks he can win Harry over to his side eventually. If for no other reason than Marcone and Harry have been allies in the past when it suited both of them. It may all come down to Beckett's daughter, who still is in a coma somewhere. That is Marcone's weak spot.
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I really hope it's something more than just what Harry's already figured out. That would be a little boring.
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