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Anyone else... disappointed? [PT/BG spoilers]

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Bad Alias:

--- Quote from: Dina on October 08, 2020, 09:21:23 PM ---I suspect he means "when rereading".

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Yep.

KurtinStGeorge:
Even though the parts of the books I liked best weren't the battle scenes, overall I liked what Jim did with these two books.  He finally swept the wreckage created by Changes off the board and set the series on a new course at full speed.  I'm expecting Mirror Mirror and the book that follows it to be smaller and more focused stories that have much more character development in them.

I didn't like Ghost Story very much, particularly the B story about the second rate sorcerer.  Some might say it was necessary to sort out some of Harry's issues; and there were parts of that book I really liked, but overall it felt like the series had gone from being in a high speed racing boat to dead in the water, at least until the ending promised to restart the motor.  Cold Days turned the series in a new direction, but to me; one, I thought that novel dragged a bit, but it also felt like a ship that was slowly regaining speed.  To put it another way, Harry was still dealing with the fallout of his attempted suicide and Chichen Itza and it just dragged the story down a notch for me.  Even though I really liked Skin Game, Harry was still dealing with Susan's death.  In a way that was realistic.  Grief doesn't get wrapped up in nice neat package that you put away forever, but it was still an indication that Harry was weighed down by the past.  I wanted to see the main story start to move at full speed again.

I think that is what Peace Talks and Battle Ground have done.  They've set the ship back to full speed and opened up new possibilities for Harry.  We can see the beginning outline of Harry taking an open stand against the White Council.  The Black Council is in ascendance.  Even though I wish we had seen more of Drakul and even Mavra, we have a sense of the threat the Creature; as Ebenezer once called him, possesses.  I really liked the way Mab manipulated Harry in both books and I like the forced marriage to Lara Raith.  I'm certainly not seeing it as a Love Connection, but I think it should be fun to watch.  Despite the flaws I think the series as a whole is now in a good place.     

Mira:

--- Quote ---I think that is what Peace Talks and Battle Ground have done.  They've set the ship back to full speed and opened up new possibilities for Harry.  We can see the beginning outline of Harry taking an open stand against the White Council.  The Black Council is in ascendance.  Even though I wish we had seen more of Drakul and even Mavra, we have a sense of the threat the Creature; as Ebenezer once called him, possesses.  I really liked the way Mab manipulated Harry in both books and I like the forced marriage to Lara Raith.  I'm certainly not seeing it as a Love Connection, but I think it should be fun to watch.  Despite the flaws I think the series as a whole is now in a good place.     

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Yeah, she may have manipulated him as far as Lara goes, but it didn't take any to get him to defend Chicago.  That was the significance of the volunteers following him under his banner, not Winter, no help from the mantle at all.  I think I enjoyed the interaction between Mab and Harry the most. Something one sees in soldiers fighting a seemingly hopeless cause, but still fighting.  They seemed to have reached an understanding and a level of respect for one another.  Yes, Harry will still fear Mab and think she is an evil monster at times, but he begins to understand her.  He begins to understand why and how she got to be the way she is.  I think it is an understanding that Rashid achieved a couple of centuries ago more or less.  Mab will still find Harry a tremendous pain in the ass at times, I suspect of her orders to marry Lara. However she respects her Knight, she isn't just playing lip service either, she sees Harry as a comrade in arms.  She hasn't regarded a Knight in this manner in a millennia.
 

Bad Alias:

--- Quote from: KurtinStGeorge on October 09, 2020, 02:51:39 AM ---I didn't like Ghost Story very much, particularly the B story about the second rate sorcerer.
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I liked Fitz, but the whole side quest seemed kinda pointless. Honestly, the whole book seemed a bit pointless. Cold Days relitigated basically the whole thing.

I did really like the Mavra was giving lip to the other vampires.

KurtinStGeorge:

--- Quote from: Mira on October 09, 2020, 03:11:53 AM ---Yeah, she may have manipulated him as far as Lara goes, but it didn't take any to get him to defend Chicago.  That was the significance of the volunteers following him under his banner, not Winter, no help from the mantle at all.  I think I enjoyed the interaction between Mab and Harry the most. Something one sees in soldiers fighting a seemingly hopeless cause, but still fighting.  They seemed to have reached an understanding and a level of respect for one another.  Yes, Harry will still fear Mab and think she is an evil monster at times, but he begins to understand her.  He begins to understand why and how she got to be the way she is.  I think it is an understanding that Rashid achieved a couple of centuries ago more or less.  Mab will still find Harry a tremendous pain in the ass at times, I suspect of her orders to marry Lara. However she respects her Knight, she isn't just playing lip service either, she sees Harry as a comrade in arms.  She hasn't regarded a Knight in this manner in a millennia.

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Oh, Mab manipulated Harry and it was masterful.  I'm going to start a new thread on that subject tomorrow.  Wait until you see the evidence before you judge.  Jim did a great job of hiding the manipulation in plain site.

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